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post #21 of 31 Old 05-01-2012, 08:41 PM
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This mare sounds perfect for trail riding! She sounds more low key vs speed. I would try to match the job to the horse.

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post #22 of 31 Old 05-01-2012, 08:54 PM
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Am I reading this right? You ride your horse "for a few hours.." THEN need a crop SUUUPERRR hard? Maybe you need to rethink your rides. Perhaps she is not conditioned to be ridden "a few hours."

This is TOTALLY different that what the OP is asking. THey are not dealing with an exhausted horse, which, at least to me, it sounds like YOU are.
I sure hope you typed something wrong.


A seasoned horse should easily be able to be ridden for a few hours without being exhausted. I ride two plus hours on a regular basis and the horses are barely tired. I am not talking about a baby here, but just commenting that one should not be all aghast if a person rides more than a few hours.

Of course, it does depend on the horse and how hard the riding was for those few hours. I understand. I just think most people underestimate how hard a horse actually can work without being "exhausted".
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post #23 of 31 Old 05-01-2012, 08:58 PM
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My horse is in suuuper great shape and I can go on 6 hour rides on her no problem, the only time my horse acts lazy and doesnt want to go when I ask her to is when I am riding her and im with my friend who is riding her horse because she gets lazy and doesnt want to leave my friends horse, and anyways we only ride around her field for about ten minutes then stop and talk for ten then ride ten more, we actually talk more than we ride. Plus my horse is never lazy if I am riding alone. I was just saying that she should smack her horse hard with a crop because it obviously knows what it can get away with and is not being forced to go faster. Im not stupid nor new to riding and I know what is best for my horse.
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post #24 of 31 Old 05-01-2012, 09:03 PM
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When you ask the horse to do something, initially, it is just that, ask. Good chance with a youngster it will be ignored. I would use leg then if no response a tap with a whip or willowy branch behind my leg. If still no response as the horse hasn't made the connection, I would continue to squeeze and tap until the horse likely scoots forward. I am careful to not pull on the reins at this time as the horse receives a mixed "go-whoa" message. If she breaks into a trot I leave her alone. It may be for only a few strides and that's a good start. I'll allow the horse to walk a minute then ask again. It takes more than a few times for the horse to realize the tap follows the squeeze and will soon break into a trot. Leg is also removed as soon as the horse trots.
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post #25 of 31 Old 05-01-2012, 09:09 PM
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A seasoned horse should easily be able to be ridden for a few hours without being exhausted. I ride two plus hours on a regular basis and the horses are barely tired. I am not talking about a baby here, but just commenting that one should not be all aghast if a person rides more than a few hours.

Of course, it does depend on the horse and how hard the riding was for those few hours. I understand. I just think most people underestimate how hard a horse actually can work without being "exhausted".
Understand totally. Typically horses that are ridden that amount regularly, (ie endurance horses) are not needing anyone to hit them "suuuupperrr hard" with anything to keep them going at any point in the ride. They finish with just about the same energy they started with. Not many are conditioned like that, and this sure doesn't sound like one of those. The hitting that hard after that length of time is what I found concerning. Glad it is all good.
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post #26 of 31 Old 05-01-2012, 09:16 PM Thread Starter
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After our adventure with a calf string as a whip, this is how she is now, there was even nicer loping that day, just not on the video. She loped a few circles each way, neckreined and with the occasional "tap tap" to keep her going.



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post #27 of 31 Old 05-01-2012, 10:19 PM
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I'm so sad at the title of this thread! I just got my first horse on Friday, when I was riding on Saturday, it felt like she was so reluctant to go. I squeezed and kicked and she would barely trot, and only for a few seconds. I was told at the time it was because she was used to beginners who didn't want her to go. The next day she started limping and was found to have a piece of wire stuck in her left rear hoof. (Separate post on that!) I'm inexperienced but theres always a chance that something else is going on. Good luck and patience!
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post #28 of 31 Old 05-02-2012, 11:46 AM
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Stop kicking her. Stop trying to "drive" her the entire time.

Selena came to me with this problem and at the barn I train for I get so many horses with the same problems.

You need to take the split reins, whip, spur, ANYTHING you can to make her go. Razzmitaz her. MAKE her move her feet.

My biggest thing here is that you said you keep driving her. Do NOT do this. Ask once softly. Ask a bit harder. Then finally get after her and make her think her world is crashing down no matter WHAT you have to do. Then, when she goes, stop driving. Let her go into an easy cruise control. The second she breaks down, get RIGHT on her again until she goes then relax. Stop riding. Loose rein. No kicking. No driving. That is her reward.
This is an issue that I'm currently working on with my horse. Part of the problem is that my horse is naturally a little lazy, and the other part is that my previous horse got me in the habit of constantly squeezing, driving, etc. which basically teaches the horse that the leg aid means nothing. He also shattered my confidence and I will sometimes catch myself leaning forward into a kind of "defensive" position- so even though I'm squeezing with my legs, my body language is telling him "don't go."

With my new horse, I'm focusing now on keeping my legs still except when I consciously want to give him a command. If he doesn't listen to a regular squeeze, he gets a little kick, if he doesn't listen to that, he gets a solid flick with the dressage whip. I'm also making sure I'm not blocking him with my body position. We've still got a ways to go (I've only had him 5 weeks!) but we're already vastly improved over when I first got him.
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post #29 of 31 Old 05-02-2012, 11:52 AM
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I see you have her going but if that don't keep up roll you spurs up and down her side. That may help.
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post #30 of 31 Old 05-02-2012, 12:04 PM
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Am I reading this right? You ride your horse "for a few hours.." THEN need a crop SUUUPERRR hard? Maybe you need to rethink your rides. Perhaps she is not conditioned to be ridden "a few hours."

This is TOTALLY different that what the OP is asking. THey are not dealing with an exhausted horse, which, at least to me, it sounds like YOU are.
I sure hope you typed something wrong.
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If I ride my horse for a few hours she gets really lazy and doesnt want to walk anymore so I use a crop, and I don't just tap her butt, I kick her with my heels and if she doesnt go I smack her suuuperrr hard with the crop so she knows im not playing around and she can't ignore my commands like that. If you don't have a crop, use a tree branch!
I'm sorry....but seriously???? Perhaps the horse is getting tired after "a few hours" and needs a rest. I have a lot that I could say, but I am going to hold my tongue. I will say I feel really sorry for your horse.
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