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        11-19-2009, 04:37 AM
      #21
    Foal
    Whilst I agree with the points most of you have raised, I don't think its a good thing for the horse to go to auction, too many uncontrolable outcome possibilities; the horse might end in a wonderful home, it could end in a horses nightmare. But I did wonder why you couldnt ride this horse, especially if your daughter rides your horse, once you have had your baby; would the owner agree to someone doing groundwork with him, at least then he is getting some work and keeping his mind occupied; longreining around obstacles and cones- could your father who you said loves him, do that? I would sit down with your friend, explain that you can no longer help out with paying for him, tell her you will accept her offer of part ownership, ( you will then have an equal say in what happens to him) in return for your help, or offer to buy him outright, and then you can part loan him to the people who are interested in him, keep him where he is now, your friend can still come to see him and feel involved, and the horse wont be put at risk at a public auction. It sounds to me like your friend had a dream, but just doesnt want to accept that she is out of her depth. But whatever I did, I would not do it in a forceful way, give her time to absorb the different possibilities with no pressure. It is her horse, and it is coming to absolutely no harm by living in a field, not doing any work; the possible harm will come if she moves him elsewhere and can't cope, without a good friend like yourself to help her out, and ultimately its the horse who could end up suffering
         
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        11-19-2009, 08:06 AM
      #22
    Showing
    Actually it's pretty expensive to let someone else to have a dream and pay for that dream. I completely agree with number of other people: stop paying the board. Be straight and tell it to BO. I can assure you BO will contact your friend for money right away and when it'll come to this point you may explain her that you don't have any more money to pay board for HER horse, and horse will go to the auction and his future will be completely unknown. May be she'll be much more cooperative after that.

    Yeah, I know it's all harsh, but your friend doesn't sound like real friend to me making you pay for her dream. Sorry.
         
        11-19-2009, 02:00 PM
      #23
    Showing
    For those of you cringing in horror at the word 'auction', please be advised that a BO isn't obligated to sell the animal at auction if taken for back board, but the horse must be sold at a public sale.

    Whether or not this means taking the animal to auction, is up to the BO.

    A public sale differs from an auction in several ways. First, the BO can have the sale at his/her barn. Second, the sale has to be advertised so nothing hinky goes on privately with the horse.

    What the BO has to agree to though, is that the person with the highest bid gets the horse, whether or not it's someone they know and of whom they approve. So it's like an auction in that sense, except that the BO has more control over how and where the horse is presented for sale.
         
        11-19-2009, 02:56 PM
      #24
    Foal
    Why are you paying her board? If she can't pay it, she's going to have to do something with the horse as in sale, lease, or move it. She'll be forced to do something with him and you don't have to be the bad guy.
         
        11-23-2009, 09:45 PM
      #25
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by lillie    
    whilst I agree with the points most of you have raised, I don't think its a good thing for the horse to go to auction, too many uncontrolable outcome possibilities; the horse might end in a wonderful home, it could end in a horses nightmare. But I did wonder why you couldnt ride this horse, especially if your daughter rides your horse, once you have had your baby; would the owner agree to someone doing groundwork with him, at least then he is getting some work and keeping his mind occupied; longreining around obstacles and cones- could your father who you said loves him, do that? I would sit down with your friend, explain that you can no longer help out with paying for him, tell her you will accept her offer of part ownership, ( you will then have an equal say in what happens to him) in return for your help, or offer to buy him outright, and then you can part loan him to the people who are interested in him, keep him where he is now, your friend can still come to see him and feel involved, and the horse wont be put at risk at a public auction. It sounds to me like your friend had a dream, but just doesnt want to accept that she is out of her depth. But whatever I did, I would not do it in a forceful way, give her time to absorb the different possibilities with no pressure. It is her horse, and it is coming to absolutely no harm by living in a field, not doing any work; the possible harm will come if she moves him elsewhere and can't cope, without a good friend like yourself to help her out, and ultimately its the horse who could end up suffering
    I agree with Lillie.

    I would think the BO could do what they wanted with the horse if money was owed to them for board. They could keep him for themselves, or give him away if they wanted - choose the new owner, as long as the potential new owner agreed to take him... or sell him if they wanted. There's proper channels for all options.

    I know of a situation now where back board is owed on a cute little gelding, and the BO's are just looking for him a good home
         

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