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    09-17-2008, 09:26 AM
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I need advice

So... I have six horses. 1 is retired, 1 is semi-retired. Then I have a 9 year old that I ride once every other week? A 14 year old that has been ridden once this year and the pony that gets ridden 1 time a month....? Then I have Riley that gets ridden about 5 times a week. (I work 40 hours a week, have riding lessons once a week, t-ball twice a week, and have a five year old to take care of, plus we are still building our place, the pastures and rings and stuff... there just isnt enough time in the day)....

I answered an add in the virginia equestrian that was posted by a 17 year old girl that is looking to lease a horse. If she responds to me, how do I vet her to make sure I want her riding my horses? And what rules do I make and ... do I make her sign a paper? She's 17, her parents probably need to sign it huh? AND do I need to meet the parents? Is this a bad idea?????
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    09-17-2008, 10:37 AM
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DEFINITELY have her sign papers! See if anyone has a copy of a lease form that you could borrow and modify if needed. Some things you will want to make sure it mentions:

-you are not responsible if this girl -or anyone else- gets hurt. (VERY IMPORTANT!)
-determine who pays the vet bills (if he gets hurt out of her neglect, routine stuff like worming, accidents that no one is at fault)
-whether or not it's ok for anyone else to ride the horse
-whether she can take it off the property he'll be living on (trail rides, shows, etc)
-that you have the right to end the lease at any time if she breaks the contract
-that you or her need to give notice (like 30 days or something) before ending the lease (if that's important to you)
-specify which vet/farrier she can use, if that's important to you
-if it's a half lease make sure you specify which days are hers
-if you are asking for a lease fee specify when she needs to give you the check (by the 5th of each month or whatever)

That's all I can think of at the moment but I'll add more if something comes to me. You'll have to have her parents sign the form since she's underage. Have you seen her ride? You could do a test ride and see if she can even ride. You could also ask for some references or ask to see where she'll be keeping your horse.
    09-17-2008, 10:47 AM
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I geuss I should have added, the horse will stay at my house. I will continue to care for it..... OK, going online to look for what are those called liabiliteis?
    09-17-2008, 10:53 AM
Green Broke
^^ What upnover said. I'd also ask her what she plans to do with the horse - what her goals and aspirations are... if she claims to just want a "trail horse" but has dreams of jumping, well you can bet your horse will be out there jumping on the trail Also lay ground rules for taking your horse off of your property, or to shows/etc. What tack will she use? A "test ride" is a must IMO, references are good, too.

Also, I would be ultra nosey and ask about grades at school (that will tell you a lot) - plans after school - and ALWAYS meet the parents (they'll have to sign anyway). If you can, ask/find out where the money will be coming from - will she be responsible for making the money/paying you, or will it come directly from mom/dad?

Good Luck :)
    09-17-2008, 11:09 AM
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See! I'd almost rather let them be lawn ornaments! I'm scared...

Are these rules to harsh?

1. No riding alone.
2. Must always wear a helmet.
3. Horse does not leave my property unless I haul it.
4. I must see the person ride the first several times.
5. No jumping until I decide the rider is ready.
6. Trail riding only when I go with her.

Is that bad?
    09-17-2008, 11:16 AM
I think those are good rules. I personally would may be remove the 1st one if she's a good rider and responsible kid (and your horses are quiet), but all others are certainly make sense.

BTW, I'd recommend to see the WHOLE process (how she approaches the horse, groom, tack, etc.), not just riding. Usually it's obvious from ground whether person cares about the horse or just riding/running.
    09-17-2008, 11:34 AM
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See. This is why I have six horses. I can't sell because I don't want them to go to a meanie head... I don't even want to let someone ride them because what if they are mean to them! WAIL... and of course after beauty's $6,000 incident.... which although not the riders fault, not entirely, I mean, accidents happen, even so... I would have like to have seen SOME remorse!
    09-17-2008, 12:34 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by farmpony84
see! I'd almost rather let them be lawn ornaments! I'm scared...

Are these rules to harsh?

1. No riding alone.
2. Must always wear a helmet.
3. Horse does not leave my property unless I haul it.
4. I must see the person ride the first several times.
5. No jumping until I decide the rider is ready.
6. Trail riding only when I go with her.

Is that bad?
I think those rules are necessary!! Those are completely valid concerns about her and your horse's safety, not weirdo control freak issues :) Like K_V said, you could see how experienced she is and let some of that go if she's wonderful. But really, you're covering your own butt and making sure people don't get hurt. I don't know how much your horse is worth, but you could consider insuring him if you're worried about injuries. That's what I did when I leased my horse out.
    09-17-2008, 12:48 PM
Green Broke
I don't see a problem with any of them.

Perhaps if she is more experienced than we think, she could do arena work/ etc. on her own (with a helmet of course).

And don't try to sell it -- those are your rules and if she wants to lease one bad enough, she'll abide. If not, you probably saved yourself one heckofa headache :)
    09-17-2008, 02:58 PM
Where I board my horses there is rarely anyone else out there with me, but the BO is always home, so I have no problem riding alone.
But when she isn't there, I don't ride, Just in case something happens.

Maybe you could make that a rule, if she proves to be a really good rider. That she can ride by herself as long as someone else is on the property.

Maybe make it a rule that she has to have a cellphone on and on her at all times in case of an emergency.

They sell cell phone holders for like $10.

I do think the rules you have are great and if she doesn't like them, then she's not going to ride one of your horses.

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