Originally Posted by FehrGroundRanch
How old is he? Have you tried taking him away from his buddy yet?
To the best of my knowledge He's 8 or 9.
The best way to get a halter on Dumas is to halter Twister and take him out of the pen. Then Dumas will want to go too. Dumas will then stand next to you at the gate and allow himself to be haltered and have the lead snapped on. Dumas is usually really good with his manners once the halter and lead are on. (yesterday was the first time he had ever tried to take off) He will do the usuall and try to get some grass but he never pulls on you or steps into you. He will let you lead him just about anywhere you want to go. He stands tied very well. He is a statue when you saddle him. He resists the bit. We were told that you had to tie him to bit him when we got him and we have not been able to get his bridle on without tieing him down. He will not move when you mount or dismount and has been good under saddle so far.
Dumas does not want to be with us but knows his job ( trail rides).
My frustrations come when he is not under saddle but rather ALL the rest of the time. Its almost impossible to brush him. He will not stand still for it. He will constantly swing his rear end around towards you when he is not on a lead rope (to which I have just said no firmly and walked around to the front of him and tried again and if that failed I would shoo him off and try again if I keep getting his hind end.) and if he is on a lead rope he will swing his rear away from you so that you cannot brush much past halfway back on his body. He won't let you get to his mane as he will move or lift his head up so high you can't continue on grooming. He is afraid of the water, and spray bottles, and rags and sponges and the container eqispot comes in. We have never been able to touch him with anything other than ropes and hands except for a nice soft brush as I already said.
As for separating the two. Dumas will freak out when he discovers that he is alone. I have really noticed this in the past month while we have been letting them graze in the yard. Twister will go about his merry business of mowing the lawn and Dumas will look up and realize that Twister has moved on, usually around the side of the house. And start that panic sounding whinny and take off running untill he finds Twister. From what we can tell Dumas is usually in charge. Twister is just a lot more laid back.
We have not really tried to separate the two we haven't had a need to and we usually do stuff as a family so both horses are always used at the same time. Even when we have tried to work with one the other can usually still see them.
I hope this info helps... I'll answer whatever else you need. I'm just out of ideas short of throwing him in a round pen and working his arse off letting him know that we are in charge. I dunno... I want him to trust us tho. That's why we have been trying the nicey nice stuff for the last 6 months. Sorry this is so long I just need some direction.