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    01-24-2012, 09:38 AM
Exclamation I'm Still having problems, Please help

In my other thread I talked about this western bit I had that hasn't seemed to be working. I tried using my rope halter on him and I even had a good horsie friend to help me and he was still doing this backing up thing and rufused to turn left or right, and I tried taking him in sharp circle but he would only do a half of a circle? I got the curb bit I orded and tried it on him with my friend still there and she says she thinks he must be acting this way even with the bit I got him, I tried doing short circles and he raised his head really high? He must not like the bit? What should I do?

My other horsie friends went on him and he would be okay at first but once we kept riding even more and he would be more and more of a pain? Please help.
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    01-24-2012, 11:07 AM
I'd look into mouth and/or back pain.
    01-24-2012, 01:18 PM
Green Broke
I don't think you have a bitting problem - I think you have a horse that needs to be evaluated for fitness for use (as Jacksmama said) and then evaluated from a training perspective - preferably by someone who can watch you with him as well as evaluate him on his own to see if it is a problem with his training or with something specific to how you are approaching things.
    01-24-2012, 02:12 PM
When did you last have his teeth floated?
    01-24-2012, 06:11 PM
Green Broke
Often it is an equipment or pain issue, or a combination of both. Look into his teeth, back, saddle.

Although sometimes its just a training issue. Rule out the other things first, and then address his behaviour. If you've tried a rope halter (without a bit), and a bit, and still had problems its likely not the bit. Check out saddle and back, make sure his teeth are up to date. I'd probably guess back pains if it were my own horse, possibly exacerbated by a poorly fitting saddle.
    01-24-2012, 10:15 PM
You bought that really awful bit, though, didn't you? You can't direct-rein with that. He's probably confused (and having mouth pain).

1. Get his teeth checked and probably floated.
2. Have a professional trainer come out and evaluate him so see if it's a training issue, a pain issue, a tack issue, or a 'you' issue.
3. Look into other, better bits, like the ones you were advised about on your other thread.
    01-24-2012, 11:40 PM
^^ Just because one person didn't have a good experience using something, doesn't mean that someone else can. We all have a right to our own opinions. I agree, the tom thumb is a hunk of junk, but I've had good experiences using a curb. Not saying that others have not. I'm just saying, maybe it would be best to tell others that YOU don't like it and YOU think it's a 'horrible' bit, instead of telling them what they should and shouldn't buy.

Curb bits are designed to be activated by the slightest movement in a slack rein. Applying direct pressure on a curb rein applies pain in the mouth, chin, and the top of the head.
    01-24-2012, 11:51 PM

Unless I'm mistaken, the OP bought one of the above. Which cannot be used for direct-reining, and is very badly balanced, besides.
    01-24-2012, 11:54 PM
Originally Posted by bubba13    

Unless I'm mistaken, the OP bought one of the above. Which cannot be used for direct-reining, and is very badly balanced, besides.
I have seen this bit used as a toilet paper holder on several outhouse walls, that should be a clue, no?
    01-25-2012, 12:00 AM
Originally Posted by bubba13    

Unless I'm mistaken, the OP bought one of the above. Which cannot be used for direct-reining, and is very badly balanced, besides.
Yes, I know Op bought that, and I know it's not supposed to be used for direct reining. What I was saying was, others can dislike it all they want, but that wont stop others from having good use and experience with the bit. I have not had problems with it thus far. And believe it or not, people still like and use tom thumbs.

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