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    03-08-2011, 03:58 PM
  #1
Yearling
Ive been defeated...

A few of you know, I've recently started looking after a saddlebred appaloosa called lily. She had been lame, but is all better now, so I attempted yo ride her today...'attempted' being the key word here.

I tacked her up, and took her to the mounting block, at first she kept spinning around and wouldnt let me get on. I finally managed to, but she wasnt too impressed... she kept backing up and lifting her front leg up, like she was going to rear. I managed to get her to walk to the gate (we have to go out the yard and cross a road to get to the riding paddock) but as soon as we got to the gate she done a huge rear and I thought she was going to go over backwards.. luckily she didnt. I got her to stand still, then got off and got the lunge line.. walked her down to the paddock & lunged her, she raced round like a complete loony.. after a while she calmed down a bit, and I got back on her... I was shaking before I even got on... I walked her round for a bit, she felt like a ticking time bomb that was waiting to explode.. I didnt attempt to trot because I knew it would end badly, I was tense & shaking the whole time.. after about a minute of walking round, I stopped her and she tried to rear again.. I broke down in tears, and had to get off because I was so scared of her... in my 8 years of riding, I've never met a horse that's scared me or even made me slightly nervous.. and I've ridden buckers, bolters & rearers.. sometimes all three in one.. but there was something about her that made me a nervous wreck.. I feel defeated, I don't know if I can get back on her..

My boyfriend was with me, and only got 2 pictures of me on her.. both with me looking tense and nervous.. second one is of her going to rear after getting back on her..
     
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    03-08-2011, 04:05 PM
  #2
Yearling
You HAVE to get back on her. The biggest mistake you made was getting off after she reared...she won, and she knew it.

Next time you ride her..lounge her first...then get on. If she rears or misbehaves, just keep riding...I know it's scary, but you cannot let her win again.

Also..in the last picture your hands seem really low...try not to pull down on her mouth when she about to rear. Keep your hands up and keep moving forward...if she's trotting it's harder for her to rear up.

Another thing..try caring a crop with you and if she's bad..whack her with it. It will snap her out of her "mood" for a minute.
     
    03-08-2011, 04:05 PM
  #3
Super Moderator
Does her saddle fit really well?
I would also lunge her first the next time you ride. I'd do lots of transitions, direction changes, and anything else you can think of while lunging her to do to get her focused in on you. I'd lunge her and keep her moving until she would like to stop. Ie, when you ask her to stop, she STOPS asap. Then, I'd try riding and just keep going as long as she's putting up a fight. Then, once she's calm, get off an be done for the day so you reward her for good behavior.

Lacey used to be a similar way and it mostly ended up that the saddle I was trying to use on her was much too narrow over her withers. Once I switched saddles to one that was wider and gave more shoulder clearance, her issues mostly disappeared. Of course, many things had become habits so I had to train her out of those behaviors but it wasn't as difficult as it had been when her tack didn't fit. Instead of swimming upstream, it was like swimming down stream with a few rocks in the way. Haha
     
    03-08-2011, 04:12 PM
  #4
Yearling
I know it was a huge mistake getting off her, but I was terrified to the point of crying & shaking like a leaf.. I shouldnt have though. I know my hands were low, I was really tense.. i'll try and fix that next time..
& I can't carry a crop, im pretty sure she was abused in an old home.. she's really head shy, I can't touch her ears & she jumps at any sudden movements & is scared of crops..

Her saddle is fine, it's been fitted, & she has a major attitude problem with or without the tack on.. her teeth were done recently too and she doesnt have a harsh bit in so I don't think its that. But she's hardly been ridden for a couple of months, due to the owners lack of time because of her work hours..which is why im now looking after her, until she's sold..
     
    03-08-2011, 04:18 PM
  #5
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by KawaiiCharlie    
her teeth were done recently too and she doesnt have a harsh bit in so I don't think its that
However in the first photo she has her mouth open. Unless you have the outside rein tight, there has to be a reason she is reacting that way.

Rearing is typically to get away from an issue with the head/face/mouth.
     
    03-08-2011, 04:19 PM
  #6
Foal
I don't necissarily think you should get on immediately. First check to make sure there is no pain that is causing her to act this way. If there is nothing physically wrong then your horse has been off for some time and it sounds like she is full of energy and wasn't being respectful right from the start. When I go to mount a horse and they act in the way your horse did I would do groundwork first to ensure that the horse is respecting me and knows that I'm the one in charge. I would suggest doing groundwork and re establishing the rules
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    03-08-2011, 04:22 PM
  #7
Yearling
It seems like she is being more stubborn than scared. If you can't use a crop the main thing you should do to prevent her from rearing is keep going forward.
     
    03-08-2011, 04:30 PM
  #8
Started
I have to say in a situation like this I always look for pain in the horse first.

Saddle fit, back soreness, hock issues, leg unsoundness, foot soreness, poll/atlas pain, teeth pain, bit/bridle discomfort - and I mean EVERYTHING.

I've found that MOST of the time a horse acting out under saddle is either due to pain or a learned response originally caused by pain. However - I say most as there are always exceptions.

I say rule out pain first - or thoroughly check to try to find source of pain first - and go from there. Good luck!
     
    03-08-2011, 04:40 PM
  #9
Yearling
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Originally Posted by mls    
However in the first photo she has her mouth open. Unless you have the outside rein tight, there has to be a reason she is reacting that way.

Rearing is typically to get away from an issue with the head/face/mouth.
true.. I never actually noticed that. Do you think maybe the bit is too high in her mouth or something? Or the bridle too tight?


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Originally Posted by rosie1    
I don't necissarily think you should get on immediately. First check to make sure there is no pain that is causing her to act this way. If there is nothing physically wrong then your horse has been off for some time and it sounds like she is full of energy and wasn't being respectful right from the start. When I go to mount a horse and they act in the way your horse did I would do groundwork first to ensure that the horse is respecting me and knows that I'm the one in charge. I would suggest doing groundwork and re establishing the rules
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i'll check her tack over again, and she had been lame, but she wasnt yesterday or today & the swelling had completely gone, but maybe she could still be a little sore..
& she's not actually my horse, I've just been asked to exercise her until she's sold.


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Originally Posted by ErikaLynn    
It seems like she is being more stubborn than scared. If you can't use a crop the main thing you should do to prevent her from rearing is keep going forward.
she seems really stressed though, like when she's tied up eating hay, she'll constantly look round at me to check where I am, and the way she eats its like when a horse is scared of something like the vet & you distract them with food & they eat really fast & kind of agressivly.. hard to explain lol

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Originally Posted by CJ82Sky    
i have to say in a situation like this I always look for pain in the horse first.

Saddle fit, back soreness, hock issues, leg unsoundness, foot soreness, poll/atlas pain, teeth pain, bit/bridle discomfort - and I mean EVERYTHING.

I've found that MOST of the time a horse acting out under saddle is either due to pain or a learned response originally caused by pain. However - I say most as there are always exceptions.

I say rule out pain first - or thoroughly check to try to find source of pain first - and go from there. Good luck!
shes already had her saddle fitted recently, and her teeth done. The bits not harsh at all, its a happy mouth one too. But i'll check everything over again but its not just undersaddle that she acts like it..she'll rear & spin round & stamp her feet while she's tied up etc.
     
    03-08-2011, 04:48 PM
  #10
Green Broke
I agree with everyone else about checking for pain. I know how you feel about being scared when on a horse my boy did that to me (as a beginner) it scared me till I cryed (bit embarrassing) in front of my trainer.
I have since done A LOT of groundwork with him to gain his respect and make sure he understands as many cues as possible from the ground. He also reared when being lunged but hasn't done it in over a month. We have both come to understand each other much better and he is now my most well behaved horse on the ground. I'm yet to get back on him because I'm not experienced enough.
     

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