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    06-01-2011, 08:42 AM
  #11
Trained
People do that a lot with jess b/c she had a big youtube and was on myspace a lot. I knew her not in person, but via the internet for a few years, we talked a lot, nearly everyday. Her death was very sad, and its very weird that people are always posting and obsessing about it who didnt know her or her horse or the situation at all.
     
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    06-01-2011, 11:08 AM
  #12
Weanling
Aww, how sad. I have never heard of her before. Gypsy, the phenomenon you are referring to is called parasocial interaction, and its very common. One could argue that every person who has exposure to media experiences it, especially kids.
     
    06-04-2011, 02:39 PM
  #13
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You guys need to really ruin every thread? R you kidding me? So you really honestly can stand there and say "You don't understand", "She died over 3 years ago", "Kids don't understand"? That is sick. I knew her via internet also. Her horse crushed her soul. If he didn't love her and they didn't have a bond how come she could do this.
That is so mean. :(. Now how do you feel? Heh??
     
    06-04-2011, 02:55 PM
  #14
Trained
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Originally Posted by fuadteagan    
Her horse crushed her soul. If he didn't love her and they didn't have a bond how come she could do this.

That is so mean. :(. Now how do you feel? Heh??
Actually, he crushed more than just her soul...

Lots of folks can stand on a horse's back. There is a guy who seems to sell horses regularly on the local Craigslist that likes to have his picture taken standing on the horse.

Horses feel affection, but that doesn't make them 'safe'.
     
    06-04-2011, 03:20 PM
  #15
Banned
Cool

I mean skull. Then she snapped her neck. Yeah, umm can they stand on the horse without a saddle or halter? In a big field? The horse not taking one step? Yes, he has hay but seriously he is just standing there for some time while someone is moving around on top of him.
     
    06-04-2011, 04:47 PM
  #16
Trained
There have been a number of threads discussing if horses can feel love for a human. I'm agnostic. They certainly feel some sort of affection, but their minds are not wired like ours.

We tend to think that if I love X, X will love me back. That doesn't work with humans, let alone horses. We also tend to think that if we love an animal, or if the animal loves us, then it will behave in an unnatural way to show its love. And that usually doesn't work either.

George Adamson, of Born Free fame, loved the lions he worked with, but he knew they remained lions. When old, he hurt himself while out with one of his favorite lions. The lion attacked him, and only a 3-shot revolver kept him alive. IIRC, his third shot grazed the lion and scared him off. Adamson blamed himself for the attack, saying it was what he deserved for turning his back on a lion while showing injured behavior.

When we work with animals, we need to understand that they remain animals, with very different emotions and strongly embedded instinctive behaviors that easily override any feelings of affection they may have for a human.

None of this is meant as a criticism of Jessice Forsyth. It is just a reminder that horses will always be horses, and it isn't fair for us to expect them to adopt human standards of behavior and emotion. It is our responsibility to learn about them and work with THEIR abilities, rather than expect them to remake themselves in our image.

As a trainer I know says, you have to love them for what they are, not for what they cannot be.
     
    06-04-2011, 04:59 PM
  #17
Banned
Ok. Thanks for explaining.
     
    06-04-2011, 05:51 PM
  #18
Weanling
I don't think that anyone was saying that you or kids in general can't understand or have feelings about it. I believe that it is natural for anyone to be upset over this kind of tragedy, regardless of whether or not you knew her. Very sad story.
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    06-04-2011, 06:01 PM
  #19
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Originally Posted by Shasta1981    
I don't think that anyone was saying that you or kids in general can't understand or have feelings about it. I believe that it is natural for anyone to be upset over this kind of tragedy, regardless of whether or not you knew her. Very sad story.
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Yeah, You Would Think! Quite Frankly, Some People Don't Care About Anyone But Themselves! They Just Totally Ignore The Fact She Died And Yap-Yap About Some Stupid Thing... Shame :roll:
     
    06-04-2011, 06:21 PM
  #20
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Yeah, You Would Think! Quite Frankly, Some People Don't Care About Anyone But Themselves! They Just Totally Ignore The Fact She Died And Yap-Yap About Some Stupid Thing... Shame :roll:

I re-read this entire thread and didn't find a single thing that indicated anyone was thinking of themselves, or said that you should ignore the fact this girl died or even any "Yap-Yap About Some Stupid Thing" or what anyone should feel ashamed of.

You posted a thread about a topic and no one could figure out why, or what the title meant. (The title is still a mystery to me.)

So after two pages, and some Googling (not from you, who posted this in the first place), I find out who this young lady is and how and when she died. All of which is very sad. And I completely get that you felt a connection to this young woman, and are grieving, even though you only knew her through the internet.

So, if you would like some commiseration 1.) be clear in your posts in the first place or 2.) lose the attitude when people don't understand what you're talking about and question or 3.) Both.
     

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