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    06-04-2011, 05:25 PM
  #21
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Originally Posted by maura    
I re-read this entire thread and didn't find a single thing that indicated anyone was thinking of themselves, or said that you should ignore the fact this girl died or even any "Yap-Yap About Some Stupid Thing" or what anyone should feel ashamed of.

You posted a thread about a topic and no one could figure out why, or what the title meant. (The title is still a mystery to me.)

So after two pages, and some Googling (not from you, who posted this in the first place), I find out who this young lady is and how and when she died. All of which is very sad. And I completely get that you felt a connection to this young woman, and are grieving, even though you only knew her through the internet.

So, if you would like some commiseration 1.) be clear in your posts in the first place or 2.) lose the attitude when people don't understand what you're talking about and question or 3.) Both.
My thoughts exactly.
     
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    06-04-2011, 06:25 PM
  #22
Trained
*waits to get shot down* so whens that over 15's rule coming in?

Tegan... PLEASE drop the childish attitude, I know you're only young, but by acting terribly 'catty' and irrational in your retorts, you are just losing yourself respect in this place by the second.
As Maura said, your original post didn't make a hell of a lot of sense when the title ays that you 'figured it out' then just post a bunch of Jessica Forsyth video's from the net with yet another 'this is so sad' yada yada yada.
No body has said it's not said, the poor kid, of course we feel for her, her family and the people that knew her. BUT we're getting a bit over these threads popping up constantly. Yes, she is dead now, its tragic, but people have to move on.

As bsms explained every so eloquently, a horse will ALWAYS be a horse, and I think Jessica's death should be proof of this considering she DID get on with her horse so well. It goes to show to kids like yourself, that no matter how much on a "bond" you have with a horse, when faced with a scary situation, it's natural instincts are going to kick back in.
Boomer did not kill Jessica because he decided to turn on her or some other silly way of thinking. No, poor Boomer must have gotten a fright, or maybe slipped on the footing and fallen. He DID NOT go out of his way to kill Jessica, horses don't think like that just like they don't feel the same 'love' as a human does.

Personally, I think that kids need to learn from this incident rather than just saying 'poor Jess, I'm so sad, they had a bond and Boomer killed her'.

The moral of this story - No matter how much YOU may love your horse and think that you have some kind of 'black stallion' type of "bond", the horse is ALWAYS going to revert back to being a horse in certain situations. A horse trainer that barely knows a horse can do the same things that Jessica did with Boomer in a week or two of breaking a horse in, but that does not mean they have a "bond", only that they understand how a horse thinks and reacts, and works WITH the horse's instincts rather than against them.
Even on the quietest, oldest most reliable horse that never kicked in its life, you just can't afford to turn your back or be complacent for a single second as that horse might get a fright right when you're behind it and next thing you know, you've got 2 kneecaps.
     
    06-04-2011, 07:53 PM
  #23
Trained
Of course its super sad that jess died [like I said I talked to her frequently before her death], but boomer didnt love her. Im sorry but I don't think horses think like that, they don't put humans first when they are in a panic situation - that is actually what is thought caused her accident. Him letting her stand on his back is because he was obedient, not because of love.
     
    06-04-2011, 09:14 PM
  #24
Weanling
Hello everyone,
This post has caused me to come out of lurkdom. You have a wonderful community here and I plan on posting more in the future.
This is a topic that is near and dear to my heart. Do animals feel love? My answer is yes they do.....but they feel love in their own way, NOT ours.
I used to be a vet technician and then I did dog and cat rescue for many, many years. Over the years I encountered people who were frustrated with their pets for one reason or another. They would say things like, "He chews my shoes to spite me." Or, "Why is she peeing on my stuff? I treat her so well. Doesn't she love me?" They could not understand why their pet was doing a particular behavior so they had to assign a human emotion to it.
MANY times the behavior was done for a medical reason. Other times it was done simply because it was an animal doing what came natural to it. Your dog chews your shoe because dogs like to chew and your shoe felt good. Maybe they even liked chewing something because it had your scent. But your dog did not chew your shoe because it was plotting revenge against you. Animals don't think that way.

Horses are no different. I don't own a horse yet but at the barn I ride there is a horse that I'm bonded to. If he sees me, he'll start whinying like crazy. He'll sit with his head on my shoulder for hours if I let him. He gives me horsey kisses. He loves me in his own horsey way. However, if a plastic bag flew across the barnyard one day and happened to land in his face, his horse instincts would take over and my but would be planted in the ground or against the fence in no time. He would not think to "take care" of me. He would do the only thing a horse knows how to do and that is RUN like the dickins to get away from the horse eating plastic bag.

I guess being almost 40, I see things differently than young girls. They seem to think that if their horse loves them, they won't hurt them. I don't know if Jessica Forsyth thought this way and I'd never speculate that, but I do see it a lot with young girls. They anthropomorphize like crazy and it can be dangerous.

I'm no horse expert at all, but I think a man-horse relationship is like any other pet. It's really quite similar to a parent-child relationship when the child is a 2 or 3 year old. Think of it this way: A parent has a baby, takes care of that baby, baby will cry for the parent, the baby loves the parent in his own baby way. But put that baby or toddler with a stranger and within the course of a few days, the baby will have bonded to the stranger because it's in the baby's instincts to bond to the caregiver. Within a few months, the baby would have no memory of that parent whatsoever. The baby would actually cry to get away from the parent. ( Something that many military people who've spent a year over seas experience when they come home, sadly. They leave a 1 year old who loved them and come home to a 2 year old who doesn't recognize them and screams to get away from them)

Does a child think to protect their parent? If something scares the child, are they are going to run to protect the parent or are they going to run to protect themselves? A child puts its own needs first and foremost, not your needs. A child is not capable of loving a parent in the same way a parent loves the child. It's not until the child is older that they develop the kind of love that an adult can feel.

Think of yourself as the parent and the horse as your child and you'll have a better understanding of how to handle your horse. An animal feels emotion, no doubt. It can even feel emotions that humans feel (anger, jealousy, happiness) but it does not feel the way or the same depth that a person feels. It caps out at the same level a 2 year old child would feel, lol. Expecting more out of your horse than you'd get from a 2 year old child is expecting too much.

Sorry for rambling about this! Bless your heart if you've read this far!
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    06-04-2011, 09:27 PM
  #25
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Good post, Heelsdown. Hope you stick around and post more often :)
In my younger days I used to stand on horses' backs just cause I could, mostly I was young and stupid, but that's neither here nor there. Anyways, I would stand up for a few seconds to show how brave I was, not because I had a special bond.
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    06-04-2011, 09:28 PM
  #26
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Originally Posted by Kayty    
*waits to get shot down* so whens that over 15's rule coming in?

Tegan... PLEASE drop the childish attitude, I know you're only young, but by acting terribly 'catty' and irrational in your retorts, you are just losing yourself respect in this place by the second.
As Maura said, your original post didn't make a hell of a lot of sense when the title ays that you 'figured it out' then just post a bunch of Jessica Forsyth video's from the net with yet another 'this is so sad' yada yada yada.
No body has said it's not said, the poor kid, of course we feel for her, her family and the people that knew her. BUT we're getting a bit over these threads popping up constantly. Yes, she is dead now, its tragic, but people have to move on.

As bsms explained every so eloquently, a horse will ALWAYS be a horse, and I think Jessica's death should be proof of this considering she DID get on with her horse so well. It goes to show to kids like yourself, that no matter how much on a "bond" you have with a horse, when faced with a scary situation, it's natural instincts are going to kick back in.
Boomer did not kill Jessica because he decided to turn on her or some other silly way of thinking. No, poor Boomer must have gotten a fright, or maybe slipped on the footing and fallen. He DID NOT go out of his way to kill Jessica, horses don't think like that just like they don't feel the same 'love' as a human does.

Personally, I think that kids need to learn from this incident rather than just saying 'poor Jess, I'm so sad, they had a bond and Boomer killed her'.

The moral of this story - No matter how much YOU may love your horse and think that you have some kind of 'black stallion' type of "bond", the horse is ALWAYS going to revert back to being a horse in certain situations. A horse trainer that barely knows a horse can do the same things that Jessica did with Boomer in a week or two of breaking a horse in, but that does not mean they have a "bond", only that they understand how a horse thinks and reacts, and works WITH the horse's instincts rather than against them.
Even on the quietest, oldest most reliable horse that never kicked in its life, you just can't afford to turn your back or be complacent for a single second as that horse might get a fright right when you're behind it and next thing you know, you've got 2 kneecaps.
Ahem--I guess you won't be the best person to give my money too huh? Mmm Guess I gotta' save my money for someone else.. Errr
     
    06-04-2011, 09:32 PM
  #27
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Money? I don't understand at all.
Fuad, I think that Heelsdown's response would be a good one for you to read.
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    06-04-2011, 09:32 PM
  #28
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And I said nothing you said Kayty. I said and know how much Boom misses Jess and didn't mean to kill her. He has problems--Like all horses. Unfortunately, that took her life. Animals do feel different about different people. Some horses will only do something for people they trust, a feeling. At least her parents didn't sell him.
     
    06-04-2011, 09:35 PM
  #29
Green Broke
I just read this whole thing and I agree with Kayty's post and welcome heelsdown your post was great too. What was with the money comment, I don't get it?
     
    06-04-2011, 09:37 PM
  #30
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Originally Posted by gypsygirl    
people do that a lot with jess b/c she had a big youtube and was on myspace a lot. I knew her not in person, but via the internet for a few years, we talked a lot, nearly everyday. Her death was very sad, and its very weird that people are always posting and obsessing about it who didnt know her or her horse or the situation at all.
Its not weird. It is called a heart. It struck me deep in the heart when I found out about the accident a while ago. I talked to Brandy (The owner of the barn boom is at). Since you knew her via internet also how come you think you know more about her than me? If you knew her and thought it was sad why I are you being all ..... the word? Mmmmmm...... mean. Actually, I was bored right now so I was looking through youtube and was looking at all her videos and decided to post something on here. So thanks for being...... errr.
     

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