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    08-02-2010, 02:31 PM
Me and my horse are english all the way. I am really into eventing cause you can be wimpy, you don't have to have a 200,000 dollar horse to do it (though most people do for Advance). Most of the people are really down to earth. I have gone through the dressage thing and hunter/jumper thing and its just the people.... Eventing it the best!!! : D I love it...

I rode a bit western and I liked it because it was easy for me a and relaxing cause I was use to english. I don't know why but it never really stuck.

AND english is not all stuck up like people think it is, especially in eventing, you have to be gung-ho and hard core about everything!
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    08-02-2010, 04:49 PM
I ride Indian style....Bareback and with a simple hackamore.

I'm not one for details or perfection, I would find the critiquing of riding in a show ring or learning a certain discipline frustrating. I just like horses and I like riding them and working with them and training them.

If I do use a saddle, I would go for a western one. But I'm more comfortable riding bareback.
    08-02-2010, 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by FlitterBug    
To be honest, to me, riding is riding. My tack depends on what I'm doing because it will be more functional for the activity and better for the horse, it has nothing to do with my comfort or security level, my balance and confidence are mine, not my saddle's.

To know a horse, to understand a horse's mind and body, is far beyond what any particular "discipline" can offer. If I'm jumping, I'll use a saddle designed for it, as there is a reason it was designed for that and its better for the horse. If I'm working on a physical level with a horse, I will usually ride english, not because I can feel more, but because the horse can move more. The horse has a lot to tell you if you are listening and you can hear just as much through the western saddle.

I usually tack up western for running barrels or working cows, but have had to do it in english tack and it didn't change the performance of me or the horse.

Some say "I ride english", "I ride western", "I run barrels", "I jump", and all I hear is "because that is what I like to do". If you ask me, I just ride for the horse, not the other way around. If you try that, you will find that the horse will give you back so much more. There is a correct biomechanical function for horse and rider that does not change with the tack. Sure, you may see different fads that may be more for the aesthetic appearance and "trends" that may not be the best thing for the horses or the riders body, but when you break it down, an athlete is an athlete.

I've found that in teaching people, the easiest people to teach are those that aren't doing it for themselves. One of my students wanted her daughter to exercise her horse and had her take a lesson. The daughter, a teenager, could care less about the horse, but wanted to do it for her mother. The horse had never worked so beautifully. My brother wanted me to teach him to ride so he could relate to his girlfriend. My brother is a natural athlete, but hasn't spent a lot of time in the saddle. In less than an hour, he was doing thing easily that take most people months to get a feel for.

I know it sounds crazy and is slightly off topic, but don't worry so much about english or western, don't worry so much about what you like to do. Try riding for someone else, even if that someone else is the horse that you are on. You will find the experience much more rewarding and you will be surprised at the progress you make.
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    08-03-2010, 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by FlitterBug    
If you ask me, I just ride for the horse, not the other way around.
Um did the horse ask you to ride him? Seriously, some horses might like working OK, but I bet you they like being out in the pasture with their buddies even better. Of course riding is about what the human wants!
    08-04-2010, 07:50 AM
Originally Posted by ponyboy    
Um did the horse ask you to ride him? Seriously, some horses might like working OK, but I bet you they like being out in the pasture with their buddies even better. Of course riding is about what the human wants!

You are speaking of something that you obviously don't understand. The rider can be very benficial to the horse with the right skills and understanding of the horses body. The horse tells people things all the time, most people just don't listen.

Any one of my horses will leave their buddies to come to me, I am the alpha horse. I also do physical rehabilitation with horses and the support that a rider can offer to a horse that has previously ignored in their physical well being is amazing. So yes, when I ride the horse, and the horse feels physically better, releases tight muscles, redistributes the weight on the legs and can begin to make their own physical adjustments, you can bet that horse wants to be ridden.

I'ves seen plenty of horses that enjoy being ridden and enjoy having a job. Its no surprise that these horses belong to people that put the horses agenda ahead of theirs. Its also no surprise that these horses and riders will succeed in the show ring far more than the rider that can't see past the surface of what that riders goals are.
    08-04-2010, 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by FlitterBug    
You are speaking of something that you obviously don't understand.
That seems to be the standard line of anyone who gets disagreed with around here.

Look at it this way - How often does someone who wins the lottery keep their job? It happens, but not much. Some people and some horses are lucky enough to find their "calling" in life, but for most of us work is work. You say your horses come to you because you're the alpha - Well guess what, most people respond when their bosses call them too. That doesn't mean that they love their jobs.

The only way to know for sure if your horse loves their job is if they do it on their own, without a rider. I've seen that happen but it's very rare.

And the only way you could ride a horse for their pleasure is if you don't try to direct them at all. Just sit there and let them do what they want. Chances are what they will want to do is graze!
    08-04-2010, 04:37 PM
Originally Posted by ponyboy    
That seems to be the standard line of anyone who gets disagreed with around here.
Naw. It is the standard for people who like to say things but have no reason for their stories so it is easier to tell others they are clueless.

I am with you on that subject Ponyboy (or gee, maybe I am just as clueless as you). I bet most horses would prefer to just not be ridden, so I doubt most people are riding for the horse. Geez.

Originally Posted by flitterbug
You are speaking of something that you obviously don't understand.

The question asked by the OP was what style people rode. People have answered it.

I do ride English. No, I did not ask my horse. I know his answer. "No thank you, I will stand here and eat instead, thanks very much." He is allergic to work of any kind. If he has to be ridden it is obvious he enjoys jumping. Ears go up, etc.

It is not so unrealistic that people that say they ride English chose to purchase horses that English is the most suitable discipline for. Why assume that we all just buy a horse and try to shove the square peg into the round hole? Why not assume that the people who say "I ride English" chose their horse because it too likes English?
    08-04-2010, 05:27 PM
I ride western, there wasn't a question about it. My family all barrel races, so when I started riding my mom bought me a barrel saddle. But when I was 12 at a barn we boarded at where my new horse was being started on barrels by my mom there were some english riders. I wanted to try it so one day a lady slapped on a english saddle onto my barrel horse and we trotted around (I already knew how to post). Couple years later I took jumping lessons, on my barrel horse. I loved it. My mare loves it to, she's a pretty jumper. So even if I go to barrel shows every weekend I ride english sometimes and just won my jumper classes at fair last week lol
    08-06-2010, 12:33 PM
Western. Not pleasure though. Barrel racing-or any speed event. I like it cause I like the feeling of the horses strength beneath you, and how much power it holds.

I don't like english, IMO its boring. Boring to ride. Boring to watch. Not bashing anyone who rides english just my opiniion
    08-06-2010, 12:48 PM
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I ride English because it makes me better than everyone else. If you don't ride English then you aren't worth diddly squat.

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