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post #11 of 16 Old 07-27-2013, 04:53 AM
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Somewhere along the line someone has screwed up a little with this horse. They've let it get away with not moving or applied leg pressure and not removed it when the horse moved forward, or they've started trotting and then jerked on reins/pulled him up a lot.

So I think from here two things are important - gradual pressure and release of pressure. You have to apply your pressure increasingly until you get the result you want everytime, and as soon as you get it you have to release. So if you ask for a trot as soon as you get it release, don't keep pushing for round or impulsion or faster. That can come later when he learns that legs mean forward.

Although, before I start ridden I'd do some work on the ground. He should yield to pressure in all ways so I'd teach him to move off immediately at a walk and trot in a roundyard, or perhaps on a long lead. It can be easy to increase pressure on the ground, but it's still important to use gradual pressure and then stop it all when he does what you want. If he learns the voice commands as well, then he'll understand what you want under saddle.
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post #12 of 16 Old 07-27-2013, 09:36 AM
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You have to create an environment for the horse where not going forward at the pace you want is more uncomfortable than actually doing the work. Start out lunging him (in case when he finally does decide to move out you won't be unseated by a sudden lurch forward). You may have to really get aggressive with him but once he understands when you say "move it" you really really mean it, the rest will be easier for you both. Until then, all you'll get from him is "la-la-la I can't hear you".
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First be very sure he isn't hurting. I once followed all the advice already listed with little result; finally called the vet, because I thought it might be a hormone problem (which was the case I'd heard about.) Turned out my pony was suffering a low-grade founder, hardly noticeable.

Another note: keep your lessons short at first. Your horse needs to be confident he won't be overworked. My present horse was "broken" by being taken on a day-long ride in the crater (high altitude, steep trails) and I truly believe it deeply affected her desire to "go."

"Lazy" horses can turn out to be the best. Once he re-discovers the joy of moving! Keep things low-key, have fun, encourage him and lots of rewards.
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post #14 of 16 Old 07-27-2013, 02:15 PM
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I also have a lazy horse. But when I found out he could go fast - he suddenly likes to go fast now.
But from ground he is still a bit lazy.

When you circle him, start with a walk around the circle four or less times. Disengage him and walk the opposite direction. Once you have walked him both ways, ask him to trot both ways. Start by just swinging the end of your lead in the air. If he still doesn't pick up speed, continue swinging the rope closer and closer to the horse until it taps him. If he still doesn't pick up speed, increase the pressure and speed. Just continue this until he picks up speed. As soon as he picks up speed, stop completely and keep im going in at least half a circle to begin with. Do half a circle, then a full circle, then two, etc.

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post #15 of 16 Old 07-27-2013, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Beling View Post
"Lazy" horses can turn out to be the best. Once he re-discovers the joy of moving! Keep things low-key, have fun, encourage him and lots of rewards.
Just a suggestion: how is he when you ride with other horses? That is, if they start to trot, does he want to trot too?

Also think about his basic level of fitness/conditioning, whether it's really hot out, etc. If you want something that will just go, buy a motorcycle
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post #16 of 16 Old 07-27-2013, 02:52 PM
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Assuming there are no pain or tack issues: Ask, tell, demand. If you have to get to 'demand' make it a so called come-to-jesus meeting so that he doesn't ever want to make you get to the 'demand' stage again and is quite happy to go at the ask or tell stage. If he is not impressed and moving quickly forward after you 'demand' it, you need a better demand. Now, when he DOES move out, LET HIM! Even it is a heck of a lot faster than you intended, you asked for forward, so keep out of his mouth and let him actually move forward for a little bit before asking for anything else.
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