Originally Posted by princecharming
i have a similar question....not to steal your thread :) If I have my horse moving foreward, his back free and swinging, his legs tracking, and over tracking a bit...If I hold me outside rien and apply inside leg his head will drop and neck will round. However his back doesnt lift! I take dressage lessons with a grand prix rider, and she never mentions it....but I always wonder! Is it just a more advanced concept? Does he need more muscle? Is that still a correct 'frame' or 'headset'? *again...sorry if this is stealing a thread, but I don't wand to make repetitive ones :)*
This depends on what you are thinking is a lifting of his back.
If he is truly swinging his back, working into a contact and round through his 'frame', his back will 'lift'.
It is dependent on the rider's sense of feel as to whether they can actually detect this 'lifting' of the back or not. Some riders just have not had the hours in the saddle and experience, or just lack feel, to be able to feel that subtle raising feeling under the saddle.
Your best bet is to get a lesson videoed, then look at it with your coach giving commentary on when you have your horse's back, and when you are in a 'false frame'.