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  • Learning to sit on your pockets in a dressage saddle
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    01-25-2012, 07:46 PM
  #11
Banned
Honestly I don't get this sit on your pockets thing.

I sit like one should, on my seat bones. Never a problem once I got my balance sorted out.
     
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    01-25-2012, 07:47 PM
  #12
Weanling
LOL... My fiancÚ is taking lessons now, but apparently the first time he hit the trails in a western saddle it wasn't a good experience.
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    01-25-2012, 07:49 PM
  #13
Trained
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Originally Posted by RoosHuman    
LOL... My fiancÚ is taking lessons now, but apparently the first time he hit the trails in a western saddle it wasn't a good experience.
Hope you two still can be parents some day
     
    01-25-2012, 08:07 PM
  #14
Showing
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Originally Posted by mildot    
Honestly I don't get this sit on your pockets thing.

I sit like one should, on my seat bones. Never a problem once I got my balance sorted out.
Yeah so long as you don't have a poor saddle fit that makes you tip forward too far, there shouldn't be a problem.

I taught a lot of little boys and tween boys and they could trot no problem, bareback, in a pad, in a saddle. Even if the horse was being particularly goofy that day. Good position. Sitting on your pockets, IMOP will cause you to curl up and shove your legs forward into a chair seat to keep your balance.

I'm not a boy (I hope you know that by now LOL) but that's what I know from 3rd person experience and logic.

But if you can't handle it, learn 2-point
     
    01-25-2012, 08:21 PM
  #15
Foal
A good fitting saddle helps. And boxer briefs. It's never been much of a problem for me, all the years I've been riding I can count on one hand how much I've been "hurt down there". Most all of those times were when I lose my seat on a horse freaking out. Even bareback is fine it's just about having a solid seat
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    01-25-2012, 08:38 PM
  #16
Weanling
Thank you for the help guys.

Will pass it all on haha.
     
    01-26-2012, 06:27 AM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by CessBee    
My boyfriend wants to take up riding but he is concerned with the comfort factor and obviously as any guy doesn't want to hurt himself. (I hope you guys know what I am referring to or this could be awkward :P)
Speaking as a guy, I can confidently tell you that your boyfriend will hurt himself at some point - not bad or anything, just enough to get his attention. There isn't a single male rider who hasn't smashed himself into the saddle more than once. Tell him to think of it as motivation to do things right; you learn very quickly what works and doesn't work. As others have said, briefs are preferred as they keep things more 'organized' if you will.
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    01-26-2012, 06:49 AM
  #18
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
so long as you don't have a poor saddle fit that makes you tip forward too far, there shouldn't be a problem.
That's an excellent point. A saddle that tips you fwd is bad in many ways and none worse than when it makes you jam the family jewels on the pommel..........
     
    01-26-2012, 09:39 AM
  #19
Trained
Some of this is just silly. You would think women have dominated riding for 2000+ years...how do folks think all those cavalry riders and cowboys reproduced?

1 - Riding 'on the pockets' is what a western saddle is designed for. It tends to go along with a mild chair seat - not like riding a Harley, but with the feet forward of the belt buckle. It is not wrong. If you look at photos and illustrations from the 1800s, darn near EVERYONE rode with a bit of a chair seat. Some more than a bit.

Apart from dressage, I don't think I've seen more than a couple of photos from before 1950 that showed anyone riding with the 'shoulder-hip-heel' thing.

Think about it girls - have any of your boyfriends ever complained, "I can't sit in a chair, it will crush my balls"?

Most of us have CHAIRS in our homes instead of POLES that we straddle with our heels aligned to our hips. Maybe there is a reason for this? If you don't like company, remove your chairs and install poles for straddling. You won't have many repeat visitors...

2 - Thighs. Most people have them. Use them. Weight can be carried in the thighs as well as the seat. I'm not saying to squeeze with the thighs, but your resting thigh can support weight, just as it does when you are sitting in a chair.

When you post, do you stand up in the stirrups? Well, maybe some do...I've seen it. But for me, posting is more a rolling motion. The horse's thrust rolls me on my thighs to a more forward position, then I let my thighs support some of my weight as I come back down.

For a guy, weight on the thighs is weight that can't smack the family jewels. The thighs form a pocket, just as they do when a guy sits down in a chair...

With a forward seat, more weight is supported by the thighs than the pockets.

3 - Stirrups. Great invention. It isn't wrong or immoral to have weight in the stirrups. It is good to practice without stirrups so you will automatically keep your balance if you lose a stirrup, but there is nothing wrong with pressure on the stirrup. Stirrups are not just an aid for mounting the horse. Weight flowing freely into your heels, which are then supported by the stirrup and your foot, is weight that is not supported by the crotch. It is good to ride without stirrups, but stirrups are attached to a saddle for a reason.

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    01-26-2012, 10:28 AM
  #20
Yearling
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Originally Posted by bsms    
Some of this is just silly. You would think women have dominated riding for 2000+ years...how do folks think all those cavalry riders and cowboys reproduced?

1 - Riding 'on the pockets' is what a western saddle is designed for. It tends to go along with a mild chair seat - not like riding a Harley, but with the feet forward of the belt buckle. It is not wrong. If you look at photos and illustrations from the 1800s, darn near EVERYONE rode with a bit of a chair seat. Some more than a bit.

Apart from dressage, I don't think I've seen more than a couple of photos from before 1950 that showed anyone riding with the 'shoulder-hip-heel' thing.

Think about it girls - have any of your boyfriends ever complained, "I can't sit in a chair, it will crush my balls"?

Most of us have CHAIRS in our homes instead of POLES that we straddle with our heels aligned to our hips. Maybe there is a reason for this? If you don't like company, remove your chairs and install poles for straddling. You won't have many repeat visitors...

2 - Thighs. Most people have them. Use them. Weight can be carried in the thighs as well as the seat. I'm not saying to squeeze with the thighs, but your resting thigh can support weight, just as it does when you are sitting in a chair.

When you post, do you stand up in the stirrups? Well, maybe some do...I've seen it. But for me, posting is more a rolling motion. The horse's thrust rolls me on my thighs to a more forward position, then I let my thighs support some of my weight as I come back down.

For a guy, weight on the thighs is weight that can't smack the family jewels. The thighs form a pocket, just as they do when a guy sits down in a chair...

With a forward seat, more weight is supported by the thighs than the pockets.

3 - Stirrups. Great invention. It isn't wrong or immoral to have weight in the stirrups. It is good to practice without stirrups so you will automatically keep your balance if you lose a stirrup, but there is nothing wrong with pressure on the stirrup. Stirrups are not just an aid for mounting the horse. Weight flowing freely into your heels, which are then supported by the stirrup and your foot, is weight that is not supported by the crotch. It is good to ride without stirrups, but stirrups are attached to a saddle for a reason.

I guess that covers the basics

In my 44 years of being on horses the only issue I've ever had with regard to "hurting" myself riding has been the rare odd "accident" with a horn. Something I just had to be careful about when using my working saddle.

Solution otherwise was easy.....don't have a horn (which a Trooper doesn't) so my current saddle of choice doesn't pose that potential problem

So I'll have to aggree with you're saying. I'd have to make some effort to sit a saddle in some why that would cause a problem, since having my butt come down first all always worked (can't imagine a different way of sitting).
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