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    05-29-2013, 04:08 AM
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Yearling
Mare that stops and stares...and wont move...

I apologize now, my space bar is sticking!My mare has a tendency sometimes to stop and stare. For example, we went to a barrel race. This day in particular was the worse. We went to the side of the arena to go around to the other end. Something she saw made her decide that we shouldnt go. I tried to be patient and kept squeezing, then we went in circles, then I tried patting her butt, and I FINALLY had to get off and move her forward into the space between the two barns and then get on again.... Then she was fine. Then IN the arena, we went in for our run (we are only trotting still yet, btw), and she decided that she didnt want to go to the fisrt barrel, or anywhere within 30ft of it. She just stood there and stared.... I pushed on her head trying to get her attention, and I patted her butt, squeezed, then bumped her with my heels, and nothing! I finally decided to flick one of the super short saddle strings on my saddle onto her rump, and ALTHOUGH it couldnt have hurt, especially compared to me patting her butt, she took off into a trot forward. I even did circles there too. A girl told me to tap her neck instead of her butt, but I have shoved her head(for laughs, at her ADD) with no reaction. She is ignoring me!

She ONLY does this when she is suspicious of something. Not even exactly scared of it. Does it at a certain part on a trail that I tend to avoid now. There is a little dog with a messed up bark that she can't even see, that just makes her stop and stare, lol...It's kind of funny at first, but it does get irritating when I try everything I can think of to get her to move and she WILL do the circles, but she will stop again at the same spot. I have been told and have used a whip. Well that isnt entirely true. My friend used a whip on her once to get her to move, and all I have to do now is flick it up with my finger, just so she sees it for her to listen.... I HATE using it. I don't HIT HER! It's being used at this point as a threat, WHICH I HATE! I want her to move forward bc I asked,not bc I told her to... and not bc I threatened her with a whip...

This is pretty much the only thing I have a problem with with her....She is bonded with me, but I have had to people think my two horses are overprotective of me! And I haved done joinup... Advice?
     
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    05-29-2013, 04:19 AM
  #2
Foal
My mare has the same issue and this is what I was told to do:

When you feel her start to slow down and hesitate, urge her forward. Do not give her time to even think about stopping. If she's not acting spooky or uppity and is just hesitating she has no reason to stop other than she wants to. I only let Mila stop when I sense she is going to have a fit if she doesn't get to look. The key is deciding when is appropriate to let them look and when isn't. Also keep in mind that when they stop and look they are also getting time to decide whether they should freak out or not. You don't want them to be able to make the wrong decision.
This is just what works with Mila and I, if she gets her way once she becomes a huge bully so I have to really watch her and keep bossing her around. It may not work the same with your horse but I hope it helps in some small way.

Edit:

I don't hit Mila or anything when she hesitates, all I do is give her a good boot with my heels. It doesn't hurt her but reminds her that "Hey! I'm up here and I'm deciding what we do and don't do!"
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    05-29-2013, 05:18 AM
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Yearling
Thanks!I think your right! I'm going to have to watch my barrel video, but I am pretty sure she does slow down right before the staring contest, lol... So I think I need to just keep her in the same pace and not let her slow her pace. Ok I just watched it. I can't upload it though. She took some steps backwards too. And you may not be able to see me flick the saddle string. And I'm not proud of whacking her butt....
     
    05-29-2013, 06:24 AM
  #4
Foal
I wouldn't worry too much, I doubt you hurt her. Sometimes it takes a bit to get them awake and moving once they get in that mode.
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    05-29-2013, 03:32 PM
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Yearling
I was on a trail ride where the goofy dog barks and she did that and I was waving my arms, yelling her,name then leaned up and bounced her head up and down, lol...Everyone was rolling!

The whip I don't really have to use!Just show it to her and she goes. And if I use it it only takes a touch with it. But that touch sends her forward too fast. I don't have alot of time to grab my reins. Well, it's not a huge deal. I just wanted to make sure I'm doing ok. And she is till young, so I'm sure it'll get better.
     
    05-29-2013, 06:04 PM
  #6
Showing
Sounds like spacey acey to me. Meaning, completely zoned out and not paying attention to anything but that around her.

Yes a whip can jolt them out of it.. but so can giving them something else to focus on like lateral exercises or turns on the forehand, hind end. Or you can try snaking forward (like a serpentine) so they can see it from both sides.
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    05-29-2013, 10:10 PM
  #7
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
Sounds like spacey acey to me. Meaning, completely zoned out and not paying attention to anything but that around her.

Yes a whip can jolt them out of it.. but so can giving them something else to focus on like lateral exercises or turns on the forehand, hind end. Or you can try snaking forward (like a serpentine) so they can see it from both sides.
I tried circles, not sure why I didnt try figure 8's.... But I am defiantly going to try that next time we get spaced out, lol! I think the serpitine might be perfect for her! Thanks for all the good advice guys!!!
     
    06-01-2013, 07:34 PM
  #8
Trained
Means she tuned you out and you are not leading that parade. There is a few exercise to get her mind back to you and get her ear cocked towards you. These are best done hands on, not explained on a forum. Maybe get a coach who can instruct you on some attention getting drills.
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    06-01-2013, 08:19 PM
  #9
Started
Imo, you need to be sure of whether she's freezing in fright mode, or deliberating whether to go forward in calm, "I may be able to get out of going forward" mode.

The two different mind-sets are properly handled in two different ways. If she's frozen in fear, you don't want to punish her for it & push her over a cliff (emotionally) by MAKING her go forward. That won't get you leadership points :).
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    06-01-2013, 10:21 PM
  #10
Yearling
I think it's a little of both. Sometimes it's fear, bc she only seems to do it in new situations or ones she hasnt been in for awhile. But then it turns into, her just staring, and not investigating even. And when I urge her forward, she only takes a small step. Then tunes me out again. Then I'll try to get her moving, so I tuck her head in, and we will move, but when I point her back at (let's say a corner of an arena she is unsure of), she will stop again. If I have her trotting, I HAVE to keep hold of the reins or she will immediately try to get away. She doesnt bolt or anything, but she tries to avoid the "corner". Almost like she doesnt believe me. We are bonded well. We have done join up, but had the bond before hand. She follows me and stops when I stop, and doesnt step in my area in a pushy way. When she does light and well mannered. Wonder if she still thinks of me as something she needs to look out for?
     

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