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    06-14-2011, 12:18 PM
  #1
Weanling
My daughters input on test ride

I posted in the Tack and Equipment section about a breastcollar/strap thing I have and then tried it out on Elwood. Dragged my husband down to the barn to take pics. I have only a couple of snapshots of me on a horse through the years, so was happy to have some pics of me actually riding. Wish I had done it years ago before I became so fat.

Anyway, I sent the pics to my daughter asking for some critque and am very happy with what I got back from her. I think it's probaby kinder & gentler than feedback from the critique section here. I'm going to put her answers together with the pics and see what they look like.

By the way, she wouldn't touch NH with a 10 foot pole, so to speak. In her teenage years we were at odds much of the time, now she is in her twenties, not living at home, and has become a bit more tolerant of me. At the same time she does "know" about the style I use.

I'll post this so as not to loose what I've typed so far, then work on pasting from her email and inserting the pics she is referring to. Could take a little while.
     
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    06-14-2011, 12:40 PM
  #2
Weanling
part 1 good ones of me and good ones of Elwood

Dear Kev
Well I am not sending about half of them I think these are the better half. Please let me know which one's you think are better as far as horse/riding go, and also just as far as family photos go.
Thanks
Mom


Good ones of you:
DSCN2811_036 - Good position, heels a little too far forward but OK for bareback riding. Elwood has his back hollowed out (head is very high, not propelling from rear) and tail swishing and his breast collar has slipped down.



DSCN2815_040 - Great pic of you, you have the straight line from your shoulder through your hip to your heel, your toes are pointed out too much but it looks like you're telling him to turn (another good point, looking where you want him to go) so that's understandable. He is once again hollowing his back and has a bit of a bored look on his face.




Good ones of Elwood:
DSCN2826_051 - your lower leg is too far forward and hands are too high



DSCN2832_057 - heels and toes, looks like you're leaning to the right

     
    06-14-2011, 12:47 PM
  #3
Weanling
Good ones of both:

Good ones of both:
DSCN2789_014 - not the best conformation shot because you can't see his legs or top of his head but I like the expressions on both of your faces. You both look very in tune to each other



DSCN2796_021 - It's up to you if you want Grandma to send this one to family but I think it's a funny and cute pic...however, by "normal" standards you're getting on on the wrong side and the people in the family who know about horses might question this.



DSCN2799_024 - You are sitting straight, good posture, relaxed, he is also relaxed and has an ear towards you showing he's paying attention.



DSCN2814_039 - Good posture, looks like you two are very in tune. I don't like that breast collar though.



DSCN2816_041 - He's listening, you're looking where you're going, looks like a good time.



DSCN2818_043 - I just like it



DSCN2822_047 - again, just a very nice picture



DSCN2825_050 - like the action shot, don't particularly like the expression on his face and your elbows are kind of high but overall it's a good picture



DSCN2831_056 - wish your heels were up and toes were in but looks like a flat walk/relaxed pic so it's ok




DSCN2841_066 - love it
     
    06-14-2011, 01:07 PM
  #4
Weanling
Not good:

Not good:
DSCN2791_016 - not a bad picture but not a good conformation shot, he's not tracking up, ears are back, placid expression



DSCN2795_020 - I like the pic but wouldn't send it on because by "normal" standards you're leading him on the wrong side and you can't see much of Elwood anyway.



DSCN2797_022 - just looks like the pic was snapped too early. Neither of you are settled in so it's not a good shot of either of you.



DSCN2817_042 - could be a good shot of him if it had been taken later in the stride, but your hands are too low and heels are too far forward and toes should be up.



DSCN2819_044 - looks like you're having trouble controlling him



DSCN2827_052 - he looks fine but your hands are too low, reins are uneven and it's too blurry to be one I recommend sending on

     
    06-14-2011, 01:08 PM
  #5
Weanling
Last one

DSCN2841_066 - love it


     
    06-15-2011, 01:48 AM
  #6
Green Broke
Just a comment on the "right vs. wrong side" subject. I was always taught the left side was the correct side to mount/lead when I started riding. But now that many years have gone by and I am training my first horse (well, with the help of a friend and her trainer) I've learned that horses should learn everything from BOTH sides.

Why have a one sided horse when your horse should lead equally well from both sides, mount from either side, etc.? When I do groundwork with my yearling, I try to work both sides equally. So even though left is the "correct" side, I think most trainers will agree it is important to work a horse equally from both sides. At least that is what mine has taught me.

So I would keep doing everything from both sides, and if someone questions it, tell them why.

Beautiful Appaloosa by the way. I love colorful horses.

Just have fun and enjoy your horse (as it looks like you are). I will agree the breastcollar doesn't fit well at all if it keeps sliding down like that. Something with a neck strap (like an endurance or english breast collar) might work better. I do think a breast collar is a good idea as it can help keep the bareback pad from rolling under the horse in an emergency situation. I have had breast collars save me from rolling under the horse (in a saddle) twice now. I am a big fan of breast collars because they can keep you from rolling and sliding into places you shouldn't.

PS. Looking at your breast collar again, you might be able to add a strap to the rings that are on it, to go over the neck and keep it up on the horse's chest where it belongs so you don't have to get a new one.
     
    06-15-2011, 11:22 AM
  #7
Weanling
Mounting right vs. Wrong side

Trailhorserider, Thanks and I have really liked your Avatars esp the one between the ears while trailriding, very fitting for the name you use here.

I began mounting from the right to even things out/make things equal on both sides just as you say.

Additionally though I feel that all the time I spend getting a saddle to fit and be evenly weighted everywhere was being 'upset' when tightening the saddle (always from the left as that's the way saddles are built). The left side was being pulled down during cinching, and sometimes I would even go around and pull it a little back to the right, then what was happening to the pad/blanket and skin/hairs?

So I began to think of mounting from the right as sort of evening that out. Tighten to the left, get on from the right. I have to say the horses adapted to it quicker than I did. It was very awkward for me at first, but I kept it up and now I feel that I am more 'even' also.

I also practice equalizing my weight and butt/leg muscle use while I'm driving a car. Using my left leg on the floor the same as the right is doing on the pedals... Now that IS weird.

Thanks again

PS. I will take your advice about the breastcollar, it was the first time I used it and it was on the loosest hole setting, I will try again tighter or use another I got from a flea market that has the over the withers strap already, this one matches the pad so well though I'd like to use it.
     
    06-15-2011, 11:32 AM
  #8
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by anndankev    
Additionally though I feel that all the time I spend getting a saddle to fit and be evenly weighted everywhere was being 'upset' when tightening the saddle (always from the left as that's the way saddles are built). The left side was being pulled down during cinching, and sometimes I would even go around and pull it a little back to the right, then what was happening to the pad/blanket and skin/hairs?

So I began to think of mounting from the right as sort of evening that out. Tighten to the left, get on from the right. I have to say the horses adapted to it quicker than I did. It was very awkward for me at first, but I kept it up and now I feel that I am more 'even' also.

Actually, you should be securing the saddle but not pulling it in either direction when you cinch. As far as mounting, ideally you would 'light into the saddle' and there again, the saddle will not rough the hairs.

I do very much agree with doing everything from both sides of the horse.
     
    06-15-2011, 11:56 AM
  #9
Weanling
not very light on my feet

MLS, yes I agree but it really looked to me like the saddle was shifting a bit to the left during cinching, on a note I do not cinch down so tight anymore and will examine it again.

I definitely do not have any natural bounce or lift to my step. I cannot stand and jump up off the floor as high as most people, even during Gym classes waaaay back in elementary school. Long before I had so much weight added to my rear. Every time I have unexpectedly come off of a horse I have landed on my rear, no matter which end was pointed up to begin with. And never again will I go down a waterslide.

I think I have a torn rotator cuff, I can no longer get on bareback by leaning over and using my arm against the far side of the horses neck to 'push' against, my arm just gives out, with a saddle and stirrups I can get on in the normal fashion, but bareback I sort of have to get on backwards, throwing my leg up in an ungainly fashion then pushing myself on from the barn wall. Unless I get up on a fence higher that Elwood's back, wish I had done that for the pics.
     

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