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    04-11-2012, 10:56 PM
Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
It's actually kind of scary when he does it. He hyperventilates, goes down on his knees, then just collapses onto his side. From the time he starts hyperventilating until he goes down is less than a thirty seconds, so most of the time it happens so fast, there's nothing you can do about it.

Not sure how that's funny.
Not funny in a way that would be detrimental to his health- that would be scary! I just have a SUPER dramatic mare and can totally picture her just fainting at the sight of something scary. Sorry!
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    04-11-2012, 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by Easter    
Not funny in a way that would be detrimental to his health- that would be scary! I just have a SUPER dramatic mare and can totally picture her just fainting at the sight of something scary. Sorry!
Honestly, the first time he did it, we thought he was putting us on. He's an arab and has that arab dramatic flare. But, this unfortunately, he wasn't just putting us on.
    04-11-2012, 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Painted Horse    
I borrowed a horse once and when I cinched the saddle tight he passed out and dropped. I loosened the cinch and he was fine. I'm a lot more careful about how tight I cinch a horse. Especially if Im not familar with it.

As I've become a better rider, more balanced and more centered, I leave my cinches kinda loose nowdays.

I've been told there is a nerve that the cinch can pinch if it's too tight that will cause the problem. Some horses are more sensitive than others
A friend of mine also has a horse that does that if you cinch him up too tight, it was scary the first time, it hasn't happened since they started being more careful about cinching him up.
I also have a friend whose horse did this to him when he would go to bridle his horse, once without a saddle on and once with a saddle on. That same horse tries to sling the bridle out of his mouth when your taking it off, he kind of grabs it and tosses it in the air. He does not like to be bridled. When he layed down it was kind of funny we just knew it was him trying to figure out how not to be bridled. Whereas with the other horse he sorta staggered and went down two totally different looks to it.
    04-12-2012, 10:08 AM
Yeah my horse staggered first and then went down, The weird thing about it is that I have had him a little under a year and he never did this for me before=/
    04-12-2012, 10:58 AM
Originally Posted by dressagegirl77    
Yeah my horse staggered first and then went down, The weird thing about it is that I have had him a little under a year and he never did this for me before=/
Has his weight or tack changed in the last month?

As was mentioned, you are likely hitting the nerve that causes the same type of sensation as when you band your elbow and everything in your arm tingles. In the case of the horse, the pressure is still there so they lose sensation and drop.
    04-12-2012, 11:38 AM
I think all the other comments about the cinch pinching are very good. I wonder though since you say he's not done it before and that he's fine lunging and riding after these incidents if it's not something else more "horsey." Is he stalled and then you take him out to saddle up? What I'm wondering is if he is just literally wanting a good roll and this is the only opportunity he's getting right out of the gate. It's spring and all animals do whacky confusing things that confound us humans. You haven't said anything that makes it sound like he's in discomfort or pain. Just acting a little weird and scaring the pants off you. Now that does sound like an Arab! LOL
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    04-12-2012, 03:45 PM
He is turned out alot right now since the weather is very nice here. I haven't changed anything with the tack lately. We he goes to lay down, he looks like he is uncomfortable in some way,...he is a thoroughbred, and he is definatelly the typical sensitive TB. His withers are sky high and he is terribly long thru his back,...the girl who had him before said she always had issues with the saddle slipping back, and I have too, I try to make sure he is padded up pretty good. When the saddle ends up a little further back, he never seems to be bothered tho...
I don't know
He also has stifness issues with his hind legs...We are thinking that may have to do with this...also his but muscles are uneven, his left is huge and his right is pretty small. But we think that's been evening out a little lately...
    04-12-2012, 03:51 PM
Did you have him checked by the vet before you bought him? My friend had an OTTB she bought directly off the track whose butt muscles were similar to what you're describing with your boy (one bigger than the other). He was fine at liberty and lunging, but as soon as you put the saddle on him, he would come up lame. She finally got the vet out to check him and it turned out he had fractured his hip on the track and it didn't heal correctly. He can never be even a light riding horse because of it.

I'm wondering if your boy has maybe hurt himself out in the turnout somehow. Not horribly injured, but enough to where the extra weight of the saddle and you is making it hurt. His way of letting you know that he doesn't want to be saddled/worked is by dropping out from under the saddle. My friend's TB would dance all over the place, trying to avoid being saddled.

I'm going to vote get the vet out to check him.
    04-12-2012, 04:09 PM
The vet did come out the next day to give shots and I had him check him out, even saddled him and showed him what he does. He did flextion tests, palpated his back and watched him work on the lunge line. My horse does have a 'hunter bump' but he had that when I got him and she said he never had issues with it, and I really don't think it has to do with the bump. The vet palpated his back and my horse was very sensitive to fingertips putting pressure, buuuuttt, he is never back sore when I curry him on his back, and my instructor is thinking that he isnt as back sore as the vet thinks. Have you ever heard of the ESPM disease that is very prevalent in drafts? I read up about this and the symptoms seem pretty similar, and he is a huge thoroughbred and even the vet thought that he may have draft in that gets me thinking...the reallly weird thing is that he has been really good to ride, hasn't acted up or shown any signs of pissyness...I think I need to have the vet take a better look at him, all he did was put him on some bute and muscle relaxers
The vet seems to think its the bump because it is very noticeable, im just not sold on that
    04-14-2012, 12:56 PM
The horse I owned as a teenager did this. She was an amazing girl, and so willing to do whatever was asked of her.
She didn't full lay down, just kind of dipped severely. It was the first I knew that she had back problems.

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