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    06-24-2011, 11:00 AM
Green Broke
I had a post all typed up, I was going to offer advice on dealing with your herd bound (would you prefer the term buddy sour?) horse, but can clearly see that you have no interest in actually receiving any actual advice, so won't waste my time any further.
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    06-24-2011, 12:03 PM
Originally Posted by HowClever    
I had a post all typed up, I was going to offer advice on dealing with your herd bound (would you prefer the term buddy sour?) horse, but can clearly see that you have no interest in actually receiving any actual advice, so won't waste my time any further.
Step one - admit your actual riding level.
Step two - learn what the problem is, and admit that it is the problem.

Being herdbound isn't an awful, horrible thing. It's something most horses can become at one point or another, and it needs to be trained out of them. Simple.
OP, if you refuse to accept the problem, then you refuse to find the correct solution. Your horse doesn't need a friend, he needs a strong rider - a leader - who won't let him get away with this nonsense.

You need to realize nobody's out to get you here; this board has a wealth of knowledge with some fantastic members already having chipped in. BUT this board doesn't tolerate immaturity well; if you come in here with a good attitude, willing to learn, you will thrive here. If you come here with a know-it-all attitude, you will butt heads -for good reason.... you don't know it all (otherwise you wouldn't have started this thread) - besides, NONE of us do. All of us are constantly learning and growing.

I hope that helps you understand what kind of community this is.
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    06-24-2011, 03:05 PM
Do you even hear how many times you've contradicted yourself?

You go back and forth admitting and denying the fact that your horse is herd bound and can't even bother to take the time to type correctly.
    06-24-2011, 11:36 PM
A horse being herd bound is not a horribe thing just something that needs to be fix. My horse is the most un-herd bound animal until we get to a show. He flips unless there is a horse he knows there. My trainer and I are working through it not a big deal. If your mother is a trainer, then have her help you with this problem. I don't care if you are a child or an adult its OK to ask for help. Especially if your mother is a trainer, go ask her for help.
    06-25-2011, 02:00 AM
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If you're ready to accept that your horse is herd bound and would actually like ideas to fix it, I have a few. But if not, feel free to ignore the rest of my post.(:

1. Get a trainer and have them fix it. If you aren't experienced enough to do so, there is no shame in getting help.
2. Tie her up somewhere away from the group (can't see them), making sure that it's safe (usually a swivel tie hooked up to a stable tree branch, or other suggestions of other members) until she stops complaining. When she's standing still, maybe even dozing off with no concern for the others, then you can put her back and she should be fine.
3. Get a trainer and ask for help if you are not experienced enough. This does not necessarily mean you are a bad rider or a beginner, it means that you do not have the experience to deal with this type of issue.
4. Get the horse in a snaffle and use force to keep it away. If you have to yank and spin in tight circles, then do that. If you want to back up around the arena or field, do that. Do not let her yank you about and put you in dangerous situations.
5. I still suggest a trainer, and I'm being blunt. If you cannot effectively keep your horse under control, something needs to change.

I am not being rude in any way. I'm telling the truth and highly suggesting a trainer. I don't care who the trainer is as long as they have the abilities to fix it. It's not going to fix itself. It may have came from out of nowhere, but it won't be gone in a split second. It needs to be dealt with because it's dangerous; not only to yourself, but also to your horse and the other horse.
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    06-25-2011, 04:42 AM
Hi olivia,

I can't say that your horse is herd bound because I havnt seen it happen. From what people have said herd bound is where a horse is very hard to get away from a group of horses? (would anyone would like to clarify that?)

The worst thing you can do is pull on him and kick him really hard. Also a bigger bit or spurs or a crop wont help your situation. There a few things that COULD help.

- disengage his hindquarter and get his mind on you( if you don't know what this means ask your mum, reserch or tell me and I will explain it)
-ask your friends to help you. They can do this by riding away from you while you have him bent down(disengaging the hindquarter)
-have you friends away from you while you get him listening to you ie trot AWAY from your friends stop, backup, turn on the haunches ,trot do a small circle ,do a big circle ,stop, walk off stop again. See if he is still interested in the other horses . If he is do some more hard work, get him thinking then stop and see if he is still interested. If he's not give him a pat and let him stand there. Then invite your friends back over (not to close say a metre between you)and let him stand. Then ask them to go away and see if he wants to follow. If he does disengage his hindquarter (he wont be able to go any where and when he stops then let him stand. Reapeat this until he can tolerate your friends coming and going

Hope this helps
    06-25-2011, 06:55 AM
Green Broke
I would just like to add to the OP, I don't know why you won't accept what some quite knowledgable people are telling you. From the information you have given it definitely sounds like your horse is herdbound.

It is nothing to be ashamed of, it is just something you have to work through. You can never garuantee your going to buy a horse that isn't herdbound.

For example when I tried my horse he didn't appear herdbound at all and we were riding in a large paddock away from his buddy. When I got home he was the same. Then I left him for 2 weeks due to a leg injury he got. When I started riding him again and handling him more then just feeding him he was extremely herdbound to my mare. I didn't let him get away with it and he realised it was easier do as he was told.

The problem is not going to go away with the attitude you have. I have yet to see a perfect horse so there is no point thinking that way. Not to say go think all horses have problems. Just listen, accept the advice you are given or don't bother asking questions, because this attitude is going to get you nowhere.
    06-25-2011, 07:30 AM
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Hi everyone,

I removed a somewhat heated discussion about immaturity and the misspelling of a word from this thread. I corrected every instance of it to ensure the proper spelling is clear to others in the future. Suffice it to say, it is "herd bound" and not "heard bound".

It looks to me like the the problem with this thread began when the very first well meaning reply/piece of advice the OP received was dismissed out of hand

Originally Posted by Dusty and Olivia
My horse isnt herd bound! He is new to my farm and think a little bit scared, that's why he stays close to the other horses
My horse will not separte from friends when riding

Dusty and Olivia, you have to understand that your words and grammar are all other members have to go on here, which is likely why following your summary dismissal of the reasonable advice you received with an exclamation mark was interpreted by others as a "snit", which unfortunately set the tone for much of the exchange that followed.

ItzKayley, while it's thoughtful of you to try to make explanations and answer for your friend, I think it does both of you a disservice. The first thought I had when you began answering for her was that the two of you were actually the same person, and I'm probably not the only one. Most members have encountered the routine of alter egos answering for each other here and elsewhere, and it's likely to make anything either of you say sound suspect. Assuming that's not the case, it tends to make it look as if your friend Dusty and Olivia cannot stand on her own two feet. It's quite possible she can, but when you answer for her you don't give her a chance to.

I point these things out in the hope that you will consider them going forward so that you can have a productive, enjoyable experience at the Horse Forum despite this thread.

That said, Dusty and Olivia, I think you've gotten about as much in the way of substantive advice as you could hope for based on the information you supplied in this thread and am closing it. If you decide you agree with the majority of members who suggested your horse is herd bound and would like to start a thread discussing the issue and how to resolve it, you are welcome to do so.


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