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    06-08-2012, 04:08 PM
Green Broke
No Triple Crown Winner this year...

It was just announced that I'll Have Another was scratched from the details that I've heard yet. All they said was it was due to leg issues (go figure)
So therell be no Triple Crown winner this year

Hope he's all right...
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    06-08-2012, 04:51 PM
Green Broke
Just found out it was due to a swollen left front tendon beginnings of tendonitis...glad they didnt run him.
Aaaand he's been retired
    06-08-2012, 05:14 PM
OH NO! No Triple Crown!

The other thread on this from this morning ...
    06-08-2012, 05:19 PM
Lets face it I don't think we will ever see another Triple Crown Winner again. Horse racing just isnt like it used to be. Its sad
And the racing industry needs a TCW sound healthy TCW so far we have had ...what 5 bad TC 3 of which ended tragically. This is not good for the industry at all.
    06-08-2012, 05:28 PM
Green Broke
Haha texas gal I didnt tee it till right after I posted!

And yeah TRR I really got my hopes up but I agree I just don't think its going to happen.
    06-08-2012, 06:20 PM
Green Broke
Yes, he'll have a few months of rest & then is being retired to stud.
    06-08-2012, 06:58 PM
Fishy fishy fishy fishy fishy.
He was galloped this AM.
The trainer has contradicted himself multiple times already, and has a laundry list of past offenses for drugging his horses.

Im sorry but no athletic career (IN ANY SPORT) was ever ended over "tendonitis". I smell a rat. Or, um. Drugs. My heart goes out to the name of a horse that will be forever tarnished because the circumstances surrounding him scratching, just hours after turning in a no-issue workout... read this then tell me how just hours before (and hours before seeing the "detention barn" with such tight security) this horse went from and I QUOTE: "O'Neill declared his colt "fit and ready to go."" at a 7:42 AM workout to a sudden, career-ending tendonitis?! Really?

At 7:42 AM this morning the horse is sound and ready to go.
I'll Have Another goes for early gallop at Belmont

At a later interview, "He looks great. He's sound. He went great this morning. He looks super (but) you just can't take a chance. He's too valuable of a horse and we love him to death like all of them," he said. "You wouldn't run a horse if you think something might happen."

Earlier in the same interview "Yesterday he galloped great, but in the afternoon we noticed some loss of definition in his left front leg," he said, addressing the media outside the Belmont barns while I'll Have Another grazed nearby. "We did just an easy gallop today. I thought he looked great on the track, and then cooling out, you could tell the swelling was back."
I'll Have Another out of Belmont, retired - FOX 10 News - Phoenix, AZ | KSAZ-TV

Now, maybe i'm just crazy, but in my 30+ years around horses, if he was galloped around 6AM, he'd be cooled out shortly thereafter, at LEAST by 7AM, right? So then how was it that at a 7:42 interview he was fit and ready to go, yet at an interview later in the afternoon, you could tell that cooling out the swelling was back (and then miraculously better in time for the interview and press conference where they zoomed in on his front legs).

You tell me - best interests of the horse at heart, or too tight security to slip by drugs and afraid of either being caught or a career ending flop running without?

Even worse, all the speculation in the world still won't put us any closer to the truth. Mostly, I feel bad for the horse. IF the tendonitis is legit (which I question) I agree he should not run tomorrow. However, is that career ending? Absolutely not. The Travers is 3 mos away. The Breeder's cup is 6. Why retire a champion horse for a minor, easily treatable injury? Unless of course, you can no longer drug the horse and he won't be able to win anyway? Also why not officially announce he is going to be avail at stud? Tendonitis in a foreleg has NO bearing on a horse's ability to breed, and bookings start now for coverings next Jan - April. That is of course, unless you need something out of the system before you make an "official" announcement and the horse has to be tested and cleared to stand for the JC...

I still say I smell a rat. Either way, it's disheartening as a huge racing fan, as I really wanted to see this one in the winner circle. Sadly, with this trainer's past record of drugging horses and the controversy surrounding past wins, i'm not surprised. Just saddened that it has to come at the price of more damage to an already floundering sport that was once regarded "The Sport of Kings".

It's a sad day, indeed.
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    06-08-2012, 07:00 PM
Down thro racing history only 11 horses have won the Triple Crown. Each race is of a different length, different track and all three are only 5 weeks apart. That is gruelling on the best of horses. Sky, iit is better to pull him when he's at the top of the heap rather than risk having a poor showing in the Belmont.
    06-08-2012, 07:27 PM
Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Down thro racing history only 11 horses have won the Triple Crown. Each race is of a different length, different track and all three are only 5 weeks apart. That is gruelling on the best of horses. Sky, iit is better to pull him when he's at the top of the heap rather than risk having a poor showing in the Belmont.
trust me, I know racing history, cause of breakdowns, and much much more all too well. IF he legitimiatly had tendonitis, 1. Why was he delcared fitter than ever this AM then later the trainer said they started noticing issues yesterday - which was it? 2. In the press conference he was NOT wrapped and they zoomed in on his legs, and there was no visible sign of swelling. 3. Was he retired forever? IF the tendonitis was legit (which it could be - I have no way of knowing for sure) that's a 3-6 mo layup. Why retire a horse based on a minor injury (as quoted by the trainer- it's minor and will heal). Also this trainer has numerous cited violations of drugging, including questions raised in his treatment and potential drugging of this particular horse. Fishy. In addition, IF he were to be retired to stud, why not officially announce that now? Unless of course "you want to wait and see" means he won't pass a test to stud for the JC for a few months so let's wait this one out.

Should he run tomorrow? If there's ANY question of soundness, absolutely not. However, name one other athlete in any sport retired permanently for tendonitis...

Then again...only in TB racing can you stud out a horse with such a short, untried career. As a great TB owner once said to me, "it's far easier to breed the soundness out of a breed than to breed it back in". Retire a horse to stud who pulls up lame after just a year of work (he only raced from mid-2yo to early 3yo career) - would you breed your sporthorse to that? I wouldn't. Then again, most sporthorses are expected to compete well beyond their 4 year old year... however many racehorses only need one or two big ones to reitre to a career at stud when their longevity, soundness, and ability to stay sound while continuing to perform has never been tested.

Disheartening, indeed.
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    06-08-2012, 07:36 PM
Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Down thro racing history only 11 horses have won the Triple Crown. Each race is of a different length, different track and all three are only 5 weeks apart. That is gruelling on the best of horses. Sky, iit is better to pull him when he's at the top of the heap rather than risk having a poor showing in the Belmont.
2 major wins are hardly the top of the heap. How sad is it that we have created a sport where to be considered at the top of the heap, all you have to do is win one or two major races? There ARE other, more difficult races than the triple crown (check out the Dubai Cup if you don't believe me) and longer ones (again Dubai Cup, for starters, along with races up to 2 miles), and plenty of horses that run well past 4 years old. Sad that less than 15 starts = a champion in so many people's eyes. And so much a part of the reason as to why TBs battle soundness issues. How can you know how sound a horse will be when they are started at 18 mos and retired at 3 or 4? If we did that to our show jumpers or dressage horses, or reiners, or cutters, we'd never know what their true potential was. My friend (a vet) owns a retired standardbred who under saddle (new racing seat - really - standardbreds under saddle) at 14 is FASTER and has beaten several currently active, racing WINNING colts. What does that hint to you?!

My question is how much are we truly missing out on by starting too early and quitting too soon?!

I'm sorry that I'll Have Another had to get caught up in all of this, and that racing will continued to be tarnished for refusing to see the big picture and instead doing what makes everyone look best, right here, right now. I truly hope his injury is legit, and not a cover for drugs, but we will never know for sure. Either way, it comes at the price of yet another blow to an already crumbling sport.

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