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    06-17-2008, 03:47 PM

So this is a long story, sorry.

I bought North out of the meat pen last summer. I knew absolutly nothing about her at all and still don't. All I know is that she is 8 years old.

Of course like most horses do, she bucked the first time I threw the saddle on her.

But she did act as though she had done this all before.
-She took the bit willingly and never chomped on it,
-She stood steady while I tacked her up,
-She acted just right in the round pen.

But then it started to get carried away. She bucked the first 8 times I lunged her with the saddle. (I've never known a horse to buck more than the first few times)

So after she finally stopped bucking she was doing great. We did lots of ground work and she was proving to be a very smart mare. In December my sister came up and we put the first couple of rides on North.

The odd thing is, she acted like she had been broke before. So I roder her 4 more times in the pen, she offered to crow hop on me once but other than that she was perfect. I was opening gates of her back and she was already starting to neck rein. After one ride I had her moving away from leg pressure. I even took her out on a trai ride in the hayfeild and she did amazing!

I rode her last week and she was a bronc! It didn't matter what I did she bucked, while I was in the saddle and lunging her. I have no idea why.

-I pulled the tack twice (the same stuff I always use on her) and there was nothing wrong.
-It is not a pain issue.
-She is heard bound, very badly.
-She is bred for her first time, she's about a month along.

So yesterday I rode her again. Did our normal thing, lunging and then riding. And she did great! She was back to her perfect old self. She never once offered to buck. Even when I asked her to do something that she didn't really want to do she just balked slightly but didn't pull any stunts.

Anyways so my question is...

Who thinks that this horse has been broke and the ran her threw the sale because they could not get the buck out of her...

And who thinks that this horse is just a really smart, quick learner that still needs to test her rider now and again?
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    06-17-2008, 05:52 PM
Re: North

Well, if this has just re-started again, it may have to do with her pregnancy. I'm surprised she's been bred with only a year under her belt with you.

If's it not pain, like you say, and it's not the pregnancy (but how would you know?) it could be that she is moody and got away with being moody before. Sometimes it ties in with the weather -- barometric pressure and all that, not just wind. Or how about her feet? Or the ground you are working her on that day?

Is she back to bucking all the time? Then I would think it might be the hormones kicking in. If not, can you tie it in with weather, or even with your own mood? Does she buck with the intent to get out of the ride or is it for fun (my girl does it just for fun).
    06-17-2008, 07:48 PM
First off I had no plans on breeding North, she jumped the fence to get in with the stud.

I could get her flushed but since it was done last year (she was bred to arabian when I got her) the vet reccommended that I should not do it again as it could cause complications.

Anyways, I never said that the pregnancy is not causing issues I was simply saying that it could be a factor.

Her feet were just done that day, which could have caused a problem and I worked her where I always do.

Yesterday when I rode her she was a dream to ride. Acted like a sweetheart.

When she bucked it was a mean buck, she was not having fun at all. It was "I'm mad! I want you OFF my back!" sorta buck.
    06-17-2008, 09:12 PM
I am by no means an expert...BUT... I think you have coverd the "usual suspects" as far as health and tack... I would hazzard a guess that you have one sharp mare! I believe that she has been broke to ride in the past. I figure she was sold as green broke like so many are and the new owners couldn't handle the buck. So off to sale she went. I think she will most likely test you for a while perhaps a long while. She has IMO learned how to get the rider off with bad behavior. I also think she sounds smart enough to do it on and off. Gool luck with her!
    06-17-2008, 10:01 PM
Originally Posted by FehrGroundRanch
First off I had no plans on breeding North, she jumped the fence to get in with the stud.
That's a real shame. But sometimes things are out of our control for sure.

Anyways, I never said that the pregnancy is not causing issues I was simply saying that it could be a factor.
Yes, and I agree, but since you don't have experience with her in pregnancy you have no way of knowing if that's messing her up or not. So, I vote for it may contribute, but I doubt if that alone would be causing her attitude.

Her feet were just done that day, which could have caused a problem and I worked her where I always do.

Yesterday when I rode her she was a dream to ride. Acted like a sweetheart.
Hmm... one day to the next... I can't see it being feet then. And based on your last comment:
[/quote]When she bucked it was a mean buck, she was not having fun at all. It was "I'm mad! I want you OFF my back!" sorta buck.[/quote]
I'd have to agree with Dumas' Grrrl. My sister had a horse like that. It took some real perserverance, but in the end she ended up with a horse she could gallop through the fields with just a halter and lead. Good luck and keep truckin'. But I'd still keep looking for a pattern. You just never know, one day you may see a link with something.
    06-17-2008, 10:10 PM
Mares.. gotta love 'em!! I agree with Dumas' - she took the words out of my mouth!... er, fingers!
I still think it might have something to do with her being bred, but there could have been a million other factors; bug bites, sore back, feet having just been done... and some horses just have off days just like us.
I know if I were a horse I'd have been dead lame the past week and a half - I twisted my wrist in my sleep and it's just starting to get better now, so maybe she was just sore for a day?
Or she could have been in a mood!
    06-17-2008, 11:40 PM
Thanks Dumas! It just concerns me that I can't find ANY history and I mean ANY on this mare!

Thanks for the support Northern Mamma! I hope at end of it she will be a good horse. I don't want to give up on her!

Allie, dang mares is right! LOL

Well I'm going to keep working with her and see if the bucking continues, I sure hope it doesn't!
    06-18-2008, 01:58 AM
Tiff, I would just stick with her. I don't have a history on my horses either... You have to make your own. I don't think she can out last the knowledgeable folks at FGR. Sure get the med stuff checked but I think she'll turn around for you. Mares are smarter than the boys sometimes and I think they can hold grudges...give her time to figure out that she's at a good place with good folks!
    06-18-2008, 07:43 AM
Fehr, she could of just have a bad day. She's a mare and they can be VERY moody. So just take it slow! :)
    06-18-2008, 12:41 PM
Thanks Dumas! You are such a sweet person! I really have no plans on giving up on North, I'm just hoping that I only have to get bucked off a couple of times before she learns! ;)

Yes Kitten Val, mares can be moody! My other mares are great and you usually can't tell when they are horsing, but North is very extreme. I mean SHE jumped the fence to get in with the stud, two fences actually!!! So she might have more of a hormonal change than the others.

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