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post #11 of 44 Old 09-08-2011, 11:19 AM
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There are lots of boys riding in competitive sports like roping, bull riding,etc. I know of some boys riding but the only young fellow riding with us is one of the couples we ride with has a teenaged son that goes with us sometimes.

When we went team penning a about 6 weeks ago there were several young fellows. Seems they are more into western type competitive riding.

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post #12 of 44 Old 09-08-2011, 11:20 AM
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I'm a proud diesel truck driving female aswell :) if I wasn't into horses I'd be a diesel technician.

There is alot of grey area on just why there has been such a change from male to female.
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None of the guys I know who ride are complaining. Horses have not stopped being the girl magnet they always were, even in my youth. I know there have been women who's first interest in me was almost certainly as a result of a horse.

I guess I'll just remain amazed at how so many men are missing the boat. Even with the media though, you would think the boys would have watched something like "The Two Towers" and the charge in "Return of the King". They can't say that the charge wasn't masculine (even if there was one women who rode in it). And the "Kingdom of Heaven" (they might have missed that one). And, as DrumRunner pointed out "The Man From Snowy River", "Tombstone, Lonesome Dove", etc.... I guess the last one they saw was "Brokeback Mnt" :) I guess that could acount for it.

Well, as I always say when someone doesn't one of the dishes made for a big family meal..."just more for the rest of us". :))
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post #14 of 44 Old 09-08-2011, 11:45 AM
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I must say that all the men I know that ride are excellent horsemen (except for hubby, but he tries and I'm appreciative that he does ride with me time to time). Can't say that for ALL the ladies I know, but most are good horsewomen.
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post #15 of 44 Old 09-08-2011, 12:32 PM
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Interesting discussion and good theories.

Now that I'm thinking back there were a lot more male riders when i was younger. Quite a few even in farmville, usa that rode english. There wasn't a single boy in the beginner hunt seat classes at our local fair this year and they were good sized classes (20-30 avg).

I do currently have 2 boys that take lessons from me. The last male student I had prior to these 2 was 6 years ago. When I was a kid I remember my mom's students being closer to a 50/50 ratio.

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post #16 of 44 Old 09-08-2011, 12:43 PM
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I think Delete has it pretty correct. Westerns and the old "Cowboys and Indians" games are not currently popular (and Cowboy's and Indians's is politically and ethically inappropriate) in today's society. I grew up with horses and lived in Texas during the Urban Cowboy fad of the 1980s. LOTS of people claiming to be big cowboys then, but it faded away. "Big hat, no cattle" we used to call them. In some Texas bars there were areas where they sent the "drugstore cowboys" while the regulars were dancing (Texas Tea House for one).

As a kid, I was all over my father to learn about horses. I spent hours looking at my Dad's books on horse husbandry, paging through Western Horseman, dragging empty halters around the yard, having a rodeo on a saddle stand, etc. This then evolved into working more and more with the horses. By high school, one of my best dates was taking a girlfriend to ride horses. Spending a day in the saddle and being together.

Today, I can't seem to get my 13 year old boy interested at all. He likes girls, and I keep trying to sell the "most riders are girls and you can meet them on horseback...". I keep trying to figure out ways to get him involved, but he would rather sit on a bench playing with his DS while I work horses than be involved in handling the stock.

I think the instant gratification of video gaming has also taken away from riding for males. It takes a lot of hard work to set a good foundation and make a good horse and rider, and (IMHO) most kids today aren't interested in making the investment to really develop that relationship. They can grab a copy of Halo and be playing online with their friends within the hour.

I will also, at the risk of appearing chauvanistic, offer what I think contributes. When I was a kid, you just got on a horse and learned to ride from your parents. Most people I knew and grew up with never had a formal lesson, or saw a professional trainer work a horse (my Dad was our trainer). If a person was in training, they were typically female. Boys rode, or did rodeo, or roped, etc.; but didnt' spend time riding the long oval. Today, most parents don't have the experience or time to really spend with their kids teaching them horsemanship (I mean this for the 'general' public, not the people on this Forum). They put their kids into classes. At those classes it's mostly english (ok, probably an over generalization, but bear with me), and you're in tights and high boots, with a helmet. Not really the image of the Marlboro Cowboy riding the range.

Coming from the very Urban Southern California area, I see it in my rural neighborhood. Kids from the urban environment are taking classes, riding jumps, dressage, arena work, WP. The kids in our neighborhood, who grew up with horses, spend hours just sitting on the horse, taking them up and down the road, "playing" on and with them. The kids that will ultimately probably enjoy a lifetime of being with horses are those who grew up around them. The "schooled" kids will have it on their resume of things they did growing up like Soccer, Little League, Football, band, etc. But they won't grow up and start owning horses (for the most part).
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post #17 of 44 Old 09-08-2011, 12:53 PM
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This reminds me that there was a young man who visited our barn last week wirh a boarder friend (female) who looked like he was in his 20's. He was being chided by his friend for being afraid to get on a horse because he thought he would be bucked off. I spoke with him later when he came around and asked me about my mare Nessie and he told me that he rides BULLS and loves it! Says he would like to learn roping but he is afraid to get on a horse

Interesting topic, though. The men around here who ride are into western competitive sports or work ranches. I only know one gay cowboy. Female western riders outnumber males except in sport and trailriding. I don't know of any male English riders.

I grew up in Ft. Worth and had a fantasy when I was young of marrying a cowboy because I wanted to live on a working ranch. It was more about the working ranch than the type of man, though. These days if a man isn't into horses, there is no way we could ever be together since it is so much a part of my time, money, energy.
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post #18 of 44 Old 09-08-2011, 01:05 PM
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This reminds me that there was a young man who visited our barn last week wirh a boarder friend (female) who looked like he was in his 20's. He was being chided by his friend for being afraid to get on a horse because he thought he would be bucked off. I spoke with him later when he came around and asked me about my mare Nessie and he told me that he rides BULLS and loves it! Says he would like to learn roping but he is afraid to get on a horse
Not saying this is the case BUT...

There are alot of boys out there who walk around with store bought belt buckles, wranglers, flannel, department store cowboy hats, and boots. Who "claim" they are bull riders just because of the stigma behind it. :roll:

I personally have never met a bull rider who was scared to get on a horse because he is worried he will get "bucked off". That just sounds silly to me.
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He gets bucked off bulls but does not want to get bucked of a horse? Somethings funny there I mean at least most horses will not go after the rider were as bulls sometimes do.


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post #20 of 44 Old 09-08-2011, 01:27 PM
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I think it also may depend on what you are doing with horses as to where the numbers will be. Here horses are still used in feedlots and cattle ranches and a good cowboy needs a good horse. I would say in my daughter's school there are more cowboys than cowgirls.
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