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    04-24-2012, 11:17 PM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by nvr2many    
What does he do when he stops?? Is he buddy or barn sour?? Maybe wanting to go back home??
When he stops, he just stands there. He'll back up, I can turn his feet in circles, but he just doesn't want to go forward.

I don't think he's buddy sour, he doesn't really have any horses he's particularly buddy-buddy with. He's actually kind of a loner. I think of him as his pasture mates' annoying little brother. :P
     
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    04-24-2012, 11:21 PM
  #12
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by sarahkgamble    
When he stops, he just stands there. He'll back up, I can turn his feet in circles, but he just doesn't want to go forward.

I don't think he's buddy sour, he doesn't really have any horses he's particularly buddy-buddy with. He's actually kind of a loner. I think of him as his pasture mates' annoying little brother. :P
Ha ha that's funny. I guess what I wanted to know is, will he turn around and go forward the other way, just not the way you want to go? Or not forward at all? What do you do at this point?? Do you get off and lead him back? Just curious. I have one that's a bit buddy sour. We are working on it,
     
    04-24-2012, 11:21 PM
  #13
Weanling
My sister's horse did this to me, so I decided to make it my own idea and not hers by going with it and asking for the back up, plus I tap her on the shoulder. I couldn't stand watching all the constant leg kicking my niece was doing and she likes to crow hop if you touch her on the backend. It works, she is pretty smart so I like to mix it up a lot. ;0)
     
    04-24-2012, 11:23 PM
  #14
Weanling
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Originally Posted by nvr2many    
Ha ha that's funny. I guess what I wanted to know is, will he turn around and go forward the other way, just not the way you want to go? Or not forward at all? What do you do at this point?? Do you get off and lead him back? Just curious. I have one that's a bit buddy sour. We are working on it,
He won't go forward in any direction, but I can move his feet other ways. When this happens, I've tried applying leg and bumping in random patterns and adding crop and if I have to, just asking him to trot. He's fine skipping the walk and he'll trot and canter forward, just not walk. I've never given up and walked back to the barn, we've just tried to push through.
     
    04-24-2012, 11:27 PM
  #15
Weanling
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Originally Posted by chandra1313    
My sister's horse did this to me, so I decided to make it my own idea and not hers by going with it and asking for the back up, plus I tap her on the shoulder. I couldn't stand watching all the constant leg kicking my niece was doing and she likes to crow hop if you touch her on the backend. It works, she is pretty smart so I like to mix it up a lot. ;0)
I've thought about just backing, but then I feel like he's won. :P I probably look more like your niece. :/ However, I did notice that if I tapped him on the behind instead of where my leg was, he would go. Granted, the first time he kicked out when I did it, but his kicking isn't scary. I can ride it easy and continue on. He's brilliant, so I guess I messed up when I did the same exercise to warm up a lot. Now I'm paying for it because Einstein horse over here is already pre-planning what I'm going to ask him. :P
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    04-25-2012, 12:24 AM
  #16
Started
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Originally Posted by sarahkgamble    
I don't have a dressage whip, just a regular crop, which I use, but he is pretty much unresponsive to it when I use it to back up my leg. I would really have to whack him (which I don't and don't want to) to get him to go. Maybe he's just being lazy..? Anyways, would getting a dressage whip make a difference? If so, hopefully Tractor Supply has one so I don't have to order one online..
Why would you not want to whack him hard? His butt is made of leather and muscle. If he's not going when you tell him to, you need to be the tough herd leader.

The thing about the Dressage whip that I like, is that you can use it while still holding both reins. Also, it is positioned near the flank, which is more effective than the buttocks because it's closer to your leg (for reinforcement) and the area is less protected. You'll be going along, and if he decides to stop, you don't have to change positions at all to give him a healthy tap on the flank.

Another thing you can do is when he stops, make him pivot like mad or disengage the hindquarters. Whenever my horse gets upset about loping off, and decides to just balk up, I'll pull him sideways and either make him spin around like a reining horse (using the crop on his shoulder if he gets stuck), or I'll pull his head in and push that hindquarters around.
     
    04-25-2012, 09:51 AM
  #17
Weanling
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Originally Posted by oh vair oh    
Why would you not want to whack him hard? His butt is made of leather and muscle. If he's not going when you tell him to, you need to be the tough herd leader.

The thing about the Dressage whip that I like, is that you can use it while still holding both reins. Also, it is positioned near the flank, which is more effective than the buttocks because it's closer to your leg (for reinforcement) and the area is less protected. You'll be going along, and if he decides to stop, you don't have to change positions at all to give him a healthy tap on the flank.

Another thing you can do is when he stops, make him pivot like mad or disengage the hindquarters. Whenever my horse gets upset about loping off, and decides to just balk up, I'll pull him sideways and either make him spin around like a reining horse (using the crop on his shoulder if he gets stuck), or I'll pull his head in and push that hindquarters around.
I've never been a person who really likes using a crop unless it's absolutely necessary. I don't condone whacking him with it, especially when it doesn't have an effect. When I said I'd really have to whack him hard, I mean it, it'd have to be REAL hard and I'm just not up for that. There are other ways I can get his feet moving through one reins and such where if the crop is needed, I can just tap and he'll move.

I may look into getting a dressage whip and see if it makes a difference.
     
    04-25-2012, 10:08 AM
  #18
Weanling
If you feel comfortable, maybe try some hacks out on the trail? Maybe a change of scenery is just what he needs.
     
    04-25-2012, 11:02 AM
  #19
Weanling
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Originally Posted by RoosHuman    
If you feel comfortable, maybe try some hacks out on the trail? Maybe a change of scenery is just what he needs.
He does enjoy riding on the trails, usually. However, I usually ride alone and I'm not sure that I'm allowed to go out by myself. The trails aren't long or anything and others do it, but I certainly don't want to get fussed at. I have gone out a couple of times while my boyfriend was feeding though and let him know I was going and to keep an eye out for either a riderless Shamrock or for me being gone too long and Shamrock really enjoys it. When I go out with other horses, he tends to act up a good bit though, which makes me uncomfortable.
     
    04-25-2012, 12:35 PM
  #20
Weanling
Maybe you could vary the work you are doing in the arena by practicing it in an empty field. You would still be enclosed, but he may be more motivated. Just an idea. ;)
     

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