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post #41 of 69 Old 08-03-2011, 01:00 PM
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Oh any btw, I do have professional help from a train with 40+ years experience.


If you have a trainer why did you not mention it when you getting a trainer was brought up before?

All you had to say then was this horse is not above your abilities.
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post #42 of 69 Old 08-03-2011, 01:06 PM
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You know what? She was doing all this before I tied one leg up. I was simply making her submit to my authority by tying her. She wasn't submitting before. And I know of famous horse trainers that ride out bucking horses with one leg tied to break them. Oh any btw, I do have professional help from a train with 40+ years experience. They said what I did was fine. It did no damage to Gene. All it did was make her submit. I don't see a problem with it. I'm sorry if you do.
Your 40+ trainers at think the physical restriction of a horse by cruel and abusive methods are fine should be tied up, left in the cellar for a week to experience just how it feels.

GOOD horsemanship is not directed at getting the horse to "submit" to authority but to understand that what we want from them won't hurt and will build a relationship where both parties look after the needs of the other.
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post #43 of 69 Old 08-03-2011, 01:09 PM
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Okay, okay. I didn't have both legs hobbled. She was being very dangerous and I didn't want to get hurt. She was squealing and huffing and she was very angry. (Mind you, this is not the time she threw me) So I Just hobbled, ONE leg up and made her lunge for about 30 seconds, then took it off. I would never hurt my horse, she's been through enough as it it.

As for when she threw me off, I did get right back on and just walked her out, just kind of let her cool down a bit. Now looking back at the situation I think I know why she did. We have two horses, besides her. We had just gotten a new round bale and the other two were over stuffing their faces while I was making her work. I think she just got frustrated and threw a fit. :P But horse fits are big. Lol Plus, as I've said before, we got a storm that day and she was feeling really good.
Get a knowledgeable trainer. Just simple as that. Sorry if it sounds rude, but it's the only way to not get hurt yourself and not hurt the horse. (or return the horse back if it's way over the head and you can't find the trainer)

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You know what guys? I really, truly appreciate all your comments. :) I've learned a lot, and yes, I have swallowed my pride. I guess that the majority rules against tying. :P And I'll listen. I won't EVER do that again. Gene is just going to take a lot of patience to work with. [: Thank you guys again! <3
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Please, who is this famous, wonderful, respected professional who breaks horses by tying a leg up and bucking them out?
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post #46 of 69 Old 08-03-2011, 01:25 PM
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You know what? She was doing all this before I tied one leg up. I was simply making her submit to my authority by tying her. She wasn't submitting before. And I know of famous horse trainers that ride out bucking horses with one leg tied to break them. Oh any btw, I do have professional help from a train with 40+ years experience. They said what I did was fine. It did no damage to Gene. All it did was make her submit. I don't see a problem with it. I'm sorry if you do.
There are just too many things wrong with this paragraph that I can't even begin to explain.

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You know what guys? I really, truly appreciate all your comments. :) I've learned a lot, and yes, I have swallowed my pride. I guess that the majority rules against tying. :P And I'll listen. I won't EVER do that again. Gene is just going to take a lot of patience to work with. [: Thank you guys again! <3
WHO in this thread said ANYTHING against tying? Nobody is AGAINST tying. What we're AGAINST is TYING YOUR HORSE'S LEG TO ITS BELLY AND THEN RUNNING IT.
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I'm sorry, but you have utterly disgusted me. This horse needs to be taken right back to the rescue you got her from. How the heck did they sign her over to you when you see methods of cruelty and abuse as common and practical?
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OP, if you truly work with someone that ties legs up to get them to "submit," I highly suggest you run away as fast as you can and find a new mentor. Real life isn't The Horse Whisperer. Real life takes time and effort.
First off, WHY is she bucking? Have you had a professional saddle fitter out to check the saddle? Have you had someone check out her back and legs? Until those two things are complete, I hate going beyond that advice. Most people prefer to skip right over my "spend money to figure out if the horse is in pain" advice, and go straight to "how do I fix it without considering spending a penny on making sure they aren't overlooking pain. Some people can check the basics themselves - but it takes a trained eye, and my gut says you don't have that yet.


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OP, if you truly work with someone that ties legs up to get them to "submit," I highly suggest you run away as fast as you can and find a new mentor. Real life isn't The Horse Whisperer. Real life takes time and effort.
First off, WHY is she bucking? Have you had a professional saddle fitter out to check the saddle? Have you had someone check out her back and legs? Until those two things are complete, I hate going beyond that advice. Most people prefer to skip right over my "spend money to figure out if the horse is in pain" advice, and go straight to "how do I fix it without considering spending a penny on making sure they aren't overlooking pain. Some people can check the basics themselves - but it takes a trained eye, and my gut says you don't have that yet.

This says all that needs to be said without being nasty to the OP.
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post #50 of 69 Old 08-04-2011, 07:52 PM
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I agree Tiny and JDI! But I do want to good job to My Morgan for listening to advice :) Most people just huff and puff and leave the forum when they are told they are wrong.

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