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    05-15-2012, 02:26 PM
  #1
Foal
Problems with horse I am leasing

Hi All,
I am looking for some advice. I am leasing a horse who my instructor just bought. He is great out on trails with other horses, he is a really good boy. However, if I to try take him away from the other horses he simply turns around as soon as we reach the gate. I make him do circles and walk forward, kicking him and it takes 10 minutes of this to get him to go through the gate. But even then he doesn't listen to me well when we are out riding in the pasture. He will pick up a canter out of the blue and I can tell he is anxious being away from his buddies.
The thing is, he doesn't do this with his owner. My daughter takes lessons on this horse and he doesn't misbehave at all when on the lead with the owner in the round pen.
If I put my daughter on him when we're alone and lead her around he walks where he wants to and always turns around heads back to the barn.
I don't feel comfortable correcting him when my daughter is on his back. I do try but it turns into a battle. I don't want him to take off or do something silly.

Any advice? I am not sure if I should continue to lease the horse next month. I really want a horse that I can lead my daughter around with no problems.
     
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    05-15-2012, 02:28 PM
  #2
mls
Trained
The horse does not respect you as a leader. Have you talked to the owner?
     
    05-15-2012, 02:39 PM
  #3
Foal
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Originally Posted by mls    
The horse does not respect you as a leader. Have you talked to the owner?
Yeah I have, I will see if instead of riding lessons if we can just work on this issue.
The problem is, when she is around he does anything I ask. It's when she is not there.
     
    05-15-2012, 03:12 PM
  #4
Showing
Typical doesn't respect you behavior.

The tell tale sign is being a saint when the herd leader is around (his owner.)

You definitely need to address this issue, or it could get outright dangerous as this disrespect escalates. See about doing some ground work with him instead of riding lessons for awhile. Maybe every other week switch off between riding and groundwork. That way you can address both issues separately but together.
     
    05-15-2012, 03:30 PM
  #5
Foal
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
Typical doesn't respect you behavior.

The tell tale sign is being a saint when the herd leader is around (his owner.)

You definitely need to address this issue, or it could get outright dangerous as this disrespect escalates. See about doing some ground work with him instead of riding lessons for awhile. Maybe every other week switch off between riding and groundwork. That way you can address both issues separately but together.

Thanks. That's a great idea about the ground work! I actually think this is a great opportunity for me to increase my horse "sense"
     
    05-15-2012, 03:35 PM
  #6
Showing
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Originally Posted by sassaflash    
Thanks. That's a great idea about the ground work! I actually think this is a great opportunity for me to increase my horse "sense"
Yeah :) And it helps you to understand one another better than riding alone. The two paired up makes for a much clearer way of communicating.

I hope it goes well for you!
     
    05-15-2012, 04:40 PM
  #7
Weanling
Ditto to the ground work!

Also, always make the right thing easy and the bad thing difficult as hell for him. He tries to spin: Get him facing the right direction throught a tight circle and as soon as he's facing the right direction release all leg and rein pressure. Just let him stand there, being praised with voice and a pat, and think throught what happened. Ask forwards with the legs and voice and have your hands holding no contact, but ready to circle him back round in a nanosecond should he think about turning round. Let him stand facing the right way again and think it through and praise him again. Eventually hel get the point spinning home= circle round with pressure on his sides and bit; direction you want to face= no pressure, just a nice pat and friendly words.

With the cantering, you said he's anxious so don't frighten him more by yanking him back to trot straight away. Let him canter say 3 strides then ask calmly for trot again. Hel work out jumping into canter is more trouble than its worth.

Oh, just a side note- if your current bit doesnt have cheeks or rings on it already, it might be worth getting those rubber bit rings so theres less chance of the bit pulling through his mouth. Not a plesant thing to endure or witness, and 99p of rubber can save a whole load of hassle!
     

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