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    06-29-2011, 01:04 AM
Wow, I can honestly say that the first video was disgusting. Not only was the guy allowing the dog to further agitate an already frustrated horse, the sound of that loose shoe nearly drove me batty. I didn't really see any blatant aggression there either. Even at the very first with the woman, that was at most a feigned attempt at aggression. If she had reacted by throwing her hands up and stepping forward, the horse would have stopped. What I saw during the rest of the video was a horse that felt trapped between the guy and the dog and was unable to focus because of that.

I also don't really see the point of the whole thing with the rope, he's not accomplishing anything except reinforcing the horse's first reaction to buck and kick. Every time he bucks and kicks, the rope falls off and he gets his "reward" by the removal of the stimuli . Couple that with the fact that the ropes were constantly tangled and wrapped around the guy's feet do nothing to demonstrate even a lick of horse sense. Anyone with experience handling any horse at all knows that you keep all ropes up off the ground and away from feet, both the horse's and your own.

The second video, I still didn't see an aggressive horse. I saw one that was spoiled and disrespectful, but that is a long way from aggressive. Plus, the lady just seemed to be nagging him instead of correcting the behavior.

Because of my life experiences, I have had the opportunity to see some truly aggressive and dangerous horses. Horses that would charge the bars of the stall when you walked by and charge and attack in the pen. Horses that had to be handled from the back of a pony horse that was bigger, tougher, and stronger than them until proper respect could be re-established.

Very few people have the tools and courage to handle a truly dangerous horse. There are lots of horses out there that have a few aggression issues that are easy enough to solve with the right training but most average horse owners/riders don't have much knowledge on what to do to correct it.

I honestly don't understand the point that the OP is trying to make and I see that I am not the only one.
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    06-29-2011, 01:15 AM
After the woman leaves, the horse is SEEKING attention from the mulleted one. Head between the panels "I can haz treat now? I scare gramma away...I can haz treat?!"

I would have kicked that guy had he rubbed my butt like that. And I can imagine the horse was less than thrilled when he was pulling on his short tail hairs.

Nothing but fear training at its worst!
    06-29-2011, 02:16 AM
Green Broke
What is wrong with a push button horse? Isn't that the ultimate goal to have such a close relationship with your horse that all you have to do is think it and they do it?
I think most people want someone else to do all the work for them and just enjoy the ride. More power too them if that is what they want. Heck on some days that is me.
However for those who want more and have more to give, well there's no shortage of critters that could use some patience, time, TLC, and a light hand.
    06-29-2011, 02:25 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by Northern    
I, myself, had to remind myself that some people want a push-button horse/don't want to progress past Level 2, and that's ok.
I just want to clarify what you meant by this. Is this mean to be an insult of some sort? Are saying people only want horses that are easy to handle and they don't want a challange?
    06-29-2011, 02:33 AM
Apache, what part of "Some people want a push-button horse and that's ok" don't you understand?

It's ok to not want a constant challenge, endless self-improvement in horsemanship, I.e., as some others do want.

Some do, some don't, & it's all ok.

    06-29-2011, 02:39 AM
Green Broke
I'm sorry I didn't clarify myself I meant the don't want to pass level 2 part
    06-29-2011, 03:05 AM
You know what, Northern. You're right.

1) Horses can not be mean or malicious
2) Many, many horses wrongly labelled "bad" can be reformed
3) We should try as often as we can to save horses from being
labelled and passed on

I suspect I prodded a couple of consciences and that was a good deal of it with the original provokers. Then the others came at me like jackals.

I see a lot of fluff on here, and when someone comes on with a problem, that person often wants to be patted on the head and be told it's all right. I didn't do that. And the verbal crucifixion began.

Hate me, folks. But like it or not, everything I said is true of horses. If you learn it, you will be better horse people who don't have to get rid of so many horses, and the horses will sure as the world benefit from it. Science is not an opinion. It's fact. Nature is not relativistic. It functions on laws. Animals function on laws of instinct. Do they vary a bit in individuals? Sure. But it is always there. You can count on it.

The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. A horse kicks when it feels threatened or challenges for dominance--not because it dislikes you. It is just such basic horse knowledge.
    06-29-2011, 03:16 AM
Your first two points, I agree with, DSJ. I think most people here tend to agree too.

It's the third point where I think the trouble is coming up. From what I understand, you say we have a personal responsibilty to show commitment to our horses unless they should end up in a kill pen. Where others are saying that there is nothing wrong with passing on a horse that does not suit your needs/you can not handle/you don't like/whatever.

Is that the basic picture here, or what am I missing?
    06-29-2011, 03:18 AM
Green Broke
I think what you said is about right Spastic Dove
    06-29-2011, 03:18 AM
And my God! Remember the post that girl made about Jessica whatever her name is who died "I finally Get It" and every single one of you--and me too--told that silly girl (not only to quit getting her jollies with false grief) but that the horse didn't throw Jessica whatever her name is and kill her because he wasn't being a faithful companion, but because he was just reacting like a horse.

It is the same thing you all have been denying me for the past 5 days. And all because you got angry and put on your blinders.

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