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post #21 of 30 Old 05-07-2010, 01:02 AM
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His trot is flat and smooth but he's also on the forehand and relying on you to hold him up. From that photo it looks like if you let go of your reins he would fall flat on his face. Ideally you want the horse to have two evenly spaced 'triangles' drawn between it's two front legs, and two back legs, with the hind hoof stepping into or in front of the print made by the corresponding front leg.
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post #22 of 30 Old 05-07-2010, 02:24 AM
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ok, wasn't after critique was using it as an example of his hoof placement not anything else. this was taken 2 years ago and my horse has improved since then. i've been getting lessons, he travelled hollow backed for 4 years so he was "propping" a false frame. i got a comp on the weekend and see if i can get a better picture if u want

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Ok ok don't get your back up I wasn't critiquing you. In my previous posts I have stated numerous times to the OP that often being on the forehand can contribute to a bouncy trot when they just run on into your hand. When you said is 'this' the trot you want, I said no it's not because it is on the forehand, her horse is already bouncy therefore she would be best off to work on getting her travelling forward and off the forehand ;)

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not getting my back up just trying to point out that the horse wasn't great in the picture, i was also offering a replacement if you wanted to see it. i should have been more clear by say "is this - being the horse 2 hoofs on the ground - what you want??

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oh and i also studied the picture after you said that especially about the fact he'll land on his head if i let the reins go...i thought that was funny, coz that's what he did at a hault earlier that yeah. sorry if i sounded pissy. but i'll let u critique my new photo when i get it, see if he's better :)

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haha no dramas thats cool, apologies if you thought I was having a go or critiquing, as I said above, I was merely pointing out that ideally you'd want the trot to be forward and tracking up. But I can see where you're coming from about having two feet on the ground at once ;)


Someone also mentioned a few posts above about the moment of suspension and the photo of 'Onyx' having all 4 feet off the ground. In dressage we desire to have that moment of suspension, and if the horse is carrying itself off the forehand and light, it will naturally offer that suspension. Ideally you will have many moments in the trot of all 4 feet leaving the ground. That is the 'spring' you want in a dressage horse which makes 'dressage horses' in general notoriously bouncy!!
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wow, this was very interesting, thank you, I now know something new. Though i've never seen my horses trot faults cause I have been on top most of the time. I liked the sound of that morgan... very comfy
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Raindance, I would certainly get someone to video you riding so you can sit back and analyse it afterwards. I find that so helpful with my riding, pick yourself apart and pick your horse apart. See if he's tracking up, if he's leaning on your hands etc. ;)
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wow, this was very interesting, thank you, I now know something new. Though i've never seen my horses trot faults cause I have been on top most of the time. I liked the sound of that morgan... very comfy
Thanks, Storm (the morgan) is amazingly comfy. He makes a good western pleasure horse for that aspect, although he is a little fast for it. Thunder, Storm's full brother, is also pretty comfy but he is closer to the Arab as he tends to come off the ground when he is going fast. His slow is nice, his fast not so much :)

The good thing about Storm is that even when he is going slow he doesn't have that short strided jog. He still travels really well. Some western horses when they get going slow bring their stride in and don't track well. It's comfortable for the most part but they have to move their legs faster because their stride is so short.
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i'll try that kayty, thanx
i've never ridden western before, love to try though
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