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    05-14-2010, 08:09 AM
  #1
Green Broke
Reads my mind.

When I ask for the canter on Buzz I sit trot and he just knows I am going to ask to canter.
I ask for canter in coners because he still has trouble picking up the right canter lead on a straight.
Today it was really obvious he knew I was going to ask I sat trot then was about to ask then he just went into a canter.
I'm not to sure if it's a good thing but it's definantly alot better then me kicking and using the whip then sometimes not even getting a result.

I wanted to know peoples opinons to see if you thought it was a bad thing and ways to stop it if you did think it was.
     
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    05-14-2010, 08:41 AM
  #2
Green Broke
I'd definitely be careful about letting him break gait without an aid from you. He may start to think it is ok to break gait at other times. Not to mention that you will be in trouble if you actually want to do a sitting trot.

I think you should start bringing him back down to the trot each time he canters without you asking. Only let him go faster when you have actually asked for it.
     
    05-14-2010, 08:54 AM
  #3
Yearling
Anticipation is bad, in my books anyway. Although it may seem easier, you didn't ask for it, and he did it.

Perhaps try sitting the trot in corners, but not giving the aids? That way he learns that just because your sitting doesn't mean he can canter without your leg or moving your seat bones.
     
    05-14-2010, 09:23 AM
  #4
Showing
The horse isn't reading your mind, he's interpreting your body language and anticipating his next move based on your previous signals.

You need to change up your routine, because his going into a canter when you do a sitting trot without you cueing him, is a big no-no.

Since you've always asked him for the canter by sitting the trot in corners, he's come to expect it. That's an error on your part.
     
    05-14-2010, 10:53 AM
  #5
Weanling
It may seem "easier" right now, but in the long run it's not. The horse should be responding to your cues...not what he thinks you want him to do or what he wants to do. Vary your routine - don't always transition into the canter from the trot. If you sit trot, don't always ask for the canter after you sit. Go back to posting or transition down to the walk. Your horse should be able to pick up the canter from a stop, walk, trot, or extended trot. If he can't, you need to back up a little in his training because he is missing some key fundamentals.
     
    05-14-2010, 03:48 PM
  #6
Green Broke
Yes I agree with the others that your horse is anticipating and not really waiting for the cue. Not something to encourage. Like the others said, change things up.

T will respond to the slightest cue from me, but if she is anticipating before I cue, than I stop her and transition back down and start over. She knows not to get ahead of me. Though it does feel like she reads my mind, she is just very intuned to my body language and is responding to the slightest change.

Haven't reached this level of communication with Walka yet, but will be very clear with him too about not getting ahead of my lead.

Good luck.
     
    05-14-2010, 05:02 PM
  #7
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[QUOTE
When I ask for the canter on Buzz I sit trot and he just knows I am going to ask to canter. Today it was really obvious he knew I was going to ask I sat trot then was about to ask then he just went into a canter.
I'm not to sure if it's a good thing but it's definitely a lot better then me kicking and using the whip then sometimes not even getting a result.
UNQUOTE

Young Buzz is not reading your mind, he is reading your body language.
You have reached a spot where it looks appropriate for you to canter and Buzz knows because he has been there before and he is expecting it. Then you stop rising and you sit to the trot, you probably flex the under thigh muscles, you brace the stomach muscles, you sit just that little more upright and you telegraph to the sensitive creature between your legs what you are about to ask him to canter - so being the obedient little horse he is, he does it, just to please. You have just had a lesson in non verbal communication.

Now if you are going to be a dressage enthusiast then this would not be a good response by the horse - those dressage riders seek instant obedience but only on cue.

However if you are going to be a happy hacker or trail rider, then this horse Buzz seems like the right sort to teach you. You'll be writing next that when you look right he turns right. Or that you think 'whoa' and he stops.

Schoolmaster horses don't necessarily hear what you ask them to do, they feel what they think you are asking them to do. That's their job. Sounds to me that with a few more lessons you might be able to leave that whip behind.

B G
     
    05-14-2010, 09:32 PM
  #8
Yearling
There are two things you need to do here. First, you have to teach him that sit the trot doesn't mean canter. Keep him slow, trotting, and relaxed. Don't let him get fast or canter. The other thing you need to do is switch it up for when you want to canter. You don't have to sit the trot to canter, you can ask on the sit stage of posting the trot instead.
     
    05-14-2010, 11:05 PM
  #9
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Barry Godden    
[QUOTE
When I ask for the canter on Buzz I sit trot and he just knows I am going to ask to canter. Today it was really obvious he knew I was going to ask I sat trot then was about to ask then he just went into a canter.
I'm not to sure if it's a good thing but it's definitely a lot better then me kicking and using the whip then sometimes not even getting a result.
UNQUOTE

Young Buzz is not reading your mind, he is reading your body language.
You have reached a spot where it looks appropriate for you to canter and Buzz knows because he has been there before and he is expecting it. Then you stop rising and you sit to the trot, you probably flex the under thigh muscles, you brace the stomach muscles, you sit just that little more upright and you telegraph to the sensitive creature between your legs what you are about to ask him to canter - so being the obedient little horse he is, he does it, just to please. You have just had a lesson in non verbal communication.

Now if you are going to be a dressage enthusiast then this would not be a good response by the horse - those dressage riders seek instant obedience but only on cue.

However if you are going to be a happy hacker or trail rider, then this horse Buzz seems like the right sort to teach you. You'll be writing next that when you look right he turns right. Or that you think 'whoa' and he stops.

Schoolmaster horses don't necessarily hear what you ask them to do, they feel what they think you are asking them to do. That's their job. Sounds to me that with a few more lessons you might be able to leave that whip behind.

B G
I love reading all of your posts, the first thing I thought when I read this thread was 'hes anticipating!' and next I thought 'thats badbadbadbad!' but I read your post and it gave me a totally different look on it, I agree with you 110%
     
    05-15-2010, 01:54 AM
  #10
Trained
Anticipating = BAD

Supple Cues - VERY GOOD

There's a differance. Remember that.
     

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