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post #11 of 22 Old 11-01-2013, 05:15 AM
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Why would your farrier charge more for the trim than the shoes? Does not compute.
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Shoes here are between £60 and £80 for a set, a trim is £20

I have two horses that self trim and never see the farrier, I used boots for a while but don't any more - it is much cheaper
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post #12 of 22 Old 11-01-2013, 07:28 PM
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Why would your farrier charge more for the trim than the shoes? Does not compute.
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I just mean the, a farrier who charges $120 for shoes, would still charge $90 just to show up and trim without shoes. It's not like no shoes cuts the price in half.

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post #13 of 22 Old 11-01-2013, 07:47 PM
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I have only lost, without a trace, one hoof boot in about 8 years. And that was because we were up the side of a mountain when I realized it was gone and I didn't want to go back and look for it. So, at least for me, it's not like they get lost all the time! I think I have also had one or two come off when either the cables broke or I was using a size too big for the horse, but in those cases the "gaiters" (these were Easyboot Epics) held them on the foot so I never lost them. Maybe me and my horses are lucky, but I have never had loosing a hoof boot to be a real issue. We canter here and there and do LOTS of rocky mountain terrain.

What I do find to be a pain is that occasionally parts break, like the buckles or cables. But I have gotten pretty good at replacing cables with cable from the hardware store. The buckles generally break under warrenty, and I patch worn gaiters myself. Again, I use Easyboot Epics.

I haven't had good luck with Old Macs or Easyboot Bares.

I really, really want to try the Renegades or the Vipers.

I ride all the time, probably 50% of the time bare and 50% of the time in front boots, depending on who I am riding with and where we are going and when the horses were last trimmed.

Which brings me to trimming. I find that if the feet get long enough (like towards the end of the trim cycle) I don't even need to use boots because the feet have enough hoof on them for protection in the rocks. But I pretty much always use boots right after a trim. If I need touch ups to get the hoof small enough to fit in the boot, I just use a rasp. But I also do my own trimming so I can trim whenever I want and don't have to rely on a farrier.

But I have been "doing barefoot" for about 8 years now. I can't imagine ever going back. But I understand shoes are more convenient for some folks. For instance, I have one friend who gets all her horses shod and won't even bother with a boot if she looses a shoe....she just waits for the farrier. But I'm not like that. I would rather be in control of my own horse's feet. And I never have to worry about lost shoes. :)
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post #14 of 22 Old 11-01-2013, 08:03 PM
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I ordered another pair of Renegades the first of September. I called Landers and asked about the Vipers.....I was told they were 6 months away so look for them sometime next spring.

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I just mean the, a farrier who charges $120 for shoes, would still charge $90 just to show up and trim without shoes. It's not like no shoes cuts the price in half.
If that's what your farrier does, you're getting ripped off.

My farrier charges $35 for a barefoot trim and I think shoes are something like $100 but I've never had my horse shod. $90 for just a trim is insane.
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That's how they do it in my neck of the woods. They are all like that.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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post #17 of 22 Old 11-09-2013, 07:35 AM
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I probably could find a farrier that worked cheaper than mine does, but my farrier shows up when he says he will and that's something I didn't get in the other farriers I tried.

After all, time is money so when they don't show it cost me money and it's cheaper to work with someone who's dependable.

Rhonda Lynn, did you order the Renegades yet?

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My experience is similar to TrailHorseRider: after riding 5 years in boots, only once a boot came off and was found later. No loss. I train for endurance so there is a fair amount of trot-canter in my rides.
I also boot in the front only, when they are freshly trimmed and on longer rides on hard surfaces-gravel roads. Otherwise, later in the trim cycle, they usually go bare comfortably.

My preference goes to Gloves and I have an array of sizes to accomodate changing hooves. A good investment, the first pair I bought is still ok (became a winter boot with studs). Then, the Renegades are close seconds in my favorites. Then the Epics. (also became studded winter boots). Vipers on my wish list...

I wouldn't go barefoot to save money though. To have a happy horse bare, it takes dedication: a look into feeding, management, footing etc. You might save if you learn to trim yourself, with a professional once in a while to correct things if needed.
Good luck RhondaLynn, let us know how it goes.

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Only lost my Vipers once. We went to a pond to drink and the horse sunk up to his knees. There was no way even shoes would have stayed on on that mud. Had to get down on hands and knees to get them. Renegades and Vipers are expensive but well worth the money. Stay on in everything except soul sucking mud and they are easy to use.
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Only lost my Vipers once. We went to a pond to drink and the horse sunk up to his knees. There was no way even shoes would have stayed on on that mud. Had to get down on hands and knees to get them. Renegades and Vipers are expensive but well worth the money. Stay on in everything except soul sucking mud and they are easy to use.
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How did you manage to get your hands on the Vipers?

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