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    11-12-2009, 05:46 PM
  #1
Trained
Riding/showing a breeding stallion

Hi folks, just looking for some opinions on my situation..

The breeder of my horse has an awful, awful back. Since I've bought my horse from her, we've become quite close and we train with the same person. She can't really sit the trot right now but needs her stallion to get scores at second level (collected and medium gaits, simple changes through walk and all sitting trot) in 2010 in order for him to get a certain rating. At the last show is when she wrecked her back and she had to do sitting trot through the tests with this stallion. The horse is so capable of doing this in his sleep, he is gorgeous.
She is about my size (5'3, 120lbs) and the stallion is 17.2hh. She has shown him before and he is an absolute lamb at shows, but he is still a breeding stallion and will let you know sometimes.
She has been told by friends that she should show the horse, but she is having second thoughts. Being a breeder of high end horses and being in a recession, she doesn't really have any spare money to be getting her stallion shown by a professional. So if someone offered to show the horse, she might take them up on the offer.
He has never done live cover, and is quite easy to handle when collecting. He usually only talks to mares and will only sometimes start prancing at them, and usually only on the ground. I've handled him on the ground at shows before, and am really comfortable around him in cross ties, in the stall, etc..
I have ridden stallions before, never at a show or away from home and not really extensively. I have ridden around mares even following one between two fences to get to the barn (first time on this stallion). I have also shown a lot at second level with good scores on much lesser horses.

I guess my question is would it be a good idea for me to offer to ride and show this guy. If I do decide to, I would definitely sit down with my coach and the breeder and talk about it. I love this stallion to death and he is a really easy-going guy, but just his size really gets to me.

Thanks!

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This is not the owner, this is a trainer who is about 6' tall.
     
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    11-12-2009, 06:20 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Here's the thing about studs...even if they are extremely gentle, they're unpredictable. But you seem to be aware of this. It's completely up to you if you want to show this horse but they are still unpredictable. If you do show him put Vicks in and on his nostrils. This will help prevent him from smelling mares.
     
    11-12-2009, 06:29 PM
  #3
Green Broke
You seem to have a really good grasp on knowing what studs are about. He's gorgeous and I'd say go for it. If it doesn't work out... at least you tried!
     
    11-12-2009, 08:30 PM
  #4
Trained
You are certainly an educated and experienced enough rider to be able to take him on. If you have a few rides on him and decide it's not going to work, I'm sure the owner will be fine with that too :) Give it a shot, it's a fantastic oppertunity for you, even though he is enormous! You'll regret turning it down I think
     
    11-12-2009, 09:35 PM
  #5
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
I guess my question is would it be a good idea for me to offer to ride and show this guy. If I do decide to, I would definitely sit down with my coach and the breeder and talk about it. I love this stallion to death and he is a really easy-going guy, but just his size really gets to me.

Thanks!

Why not. If the stallion is well behaved and you know what you are doing then sure.

Same situation with me. My back is getting so bad I can hardly ride. The barn owner's daughter rides him. She is 18. We go to shows where there are teenagers and some very inexperienced people around. This also includes loose horses and group classes here they will ride right up your horse's a$$. We are careful in what classes he goes into on the flat but other than that there has been no problems. The only difference to anebel's situation is that we DO breed live cover and that may be the reason in part why he acts like any other horse at a show.

To the person that said stallions are unpredictible ...I disagree...they are VERY predictible. They are breeding animals and as such they ACT like breeding animals. That behavour can be controled with training and if that stallion has a good temperment bred into it. All riders of stallions must ride them like you drive a car....assume everyone else is the a$$ and drive defensively.
     
    11-12-2009, 09:44 PM
  #6
Trained
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To the person that said stallions are unpredictible ...I disagree...they are VERY predictible. They are breeding animals and as such they ACT like breeding animals. That behavour can be controled with training and if that stallion has a good temperment bred into it. All riders of stallions must ride them like you drive a car....assume everyone else is the a$$ and drive defensively.
I absolutely agree! Great post.

Those who have lack of education on Stallions irks me.

I was at a large Hunter/Jumper show and in the warm-up right that was quite packed. In that ring, was a Stallion, that no one even noticed.

He was large, beautiful and very well behaved. He was listening to his riders aids and cue's and blended right into the whole crowd.

Then the announcer had to let everyone know, thorugh the P.A system that there was a Stallion and everyone freaked out. Parents were hollering at their kids to get their horses out of there and away from the Stallion and people were acting absolutely ignorant, uneducated and judgemental.

That Stallion acted 10x better than the Mares who were there that day, and he and his rider, cleaned house and showed most of those ignoramuses how to get the job done.

I get so irritated at people who judge a horse just because the gender is a Stallion.

It isn't the horse that acts bad - it is the rider/handler.

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Anabel - ABSOLUTELY! Go for it! What a looker and what a great opportunity for you as well. I look forward to hearing more about the two of you!
     
    11-12-2009, 10:38 PM
  #7
Trained
Thanks guys!
I probably wont get a chance to even have everyone in the same room until early January, so I'll have some time to think. I'll talk to her in the mean time and see if she would even consider me to ride him.
     
    11-12-2009, 11:35 PM
  #8
Trained
Anabel -- why does his size get to you? I'm sure you have enough experience to know that once you're up there, it's all the same. Just a longer drop to the ground. No big deal really. The big deal is the stallion attitude and you seem to have a good knowledge of that.

My mare is 17.3 and everyone freaks at how tall she is. After a year, I still notice how tall she is when I'm on the ground, but never when I'm in the saddle.
     
    11-13-2009, 01:06 AM
  #9
Trained
I show all my stallions and have never had a problem with any of them. If you lay down the rules at the beginning and let him know you are just like his owner and he can not get away with things even at shows he should be fine. Just stay on the same page as his owner.
     
    11-13-2009, 01:16 AM
  #10
Trained
If she starts to make a recovery break her leg so you can still ride him. He looks great. Good luck.
     

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