Originally Posted by mumiinek
PoohLP, you shouldn't force any horse be it a mare or a gelding (if you want to fix a problem properly and not just superficially), you should just show them that when they listen to you and do things the way you want them to it's much easier for them than making things up themselves and freaking out.
Obviously. I don't think I have ever advocated forcing anything. Just patience and insistence. I never suggested whipping or spurring a horse somewhere they don't want to go - that would be counter productive.
That said, my experience has been that it sometimes takes a little more patience with a mare. Sometimes (but certainly not always) a gelding will do something they don't really want to do, simply because you "tell" them (with your aids) to do it, because many of them are eager to please once they figure out what you want (and that is a big "once" sometimes. Hence, collecting them into a frame to distract them from the scary corner or door may be effective. My experience with mares - which all my main horses have been - has been that if you tell them, you usually first have to get through the experience of them asking, "why should I," and then trying with all their might to get out of it until you convince them - nicely, but insistently - that it is in their best interest to do what you want. But once they accept it, the pay off is really great.
It's the old adage, "You can tell a gelding, ask a mare and suggest to a stallion." Not always true, but enough of the time that taking slightly different training approaches into account can be helpful. :)