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post #1 of 7 Old 03-15-2013, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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SERIOUS napping issues

Im a confident, quite experienced english rider, but im having issues with my loan horse Rolo...

I decided to walk him on the trail, after my session in the arena to warm him down as last week I was having trouble stopping him on hacks, so I thought it would be a good idea to take him on the trail when he was abit tired :L

Well it didn't go especially well to say the least.. we were happily walking along towards the entrance of the trail and he just stopped dead refused to move, I gently nudged him, he did a MASSIVE buck and spun round luckily I didnt come off but how ever hard I tried to get him ont the trail he would just start bucking and rearing, it was really embarassing and obviously I don't want him doing it all the time.
I REALLY don't want him in this habit as he used to do it in the arena but just randomly stopped doing it in there when we moved yards

What should I do ?
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post #2 of 7 Old 03-15-2013, 07:26 PM
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If that were me...Id carry a nice long dressage whip, and smack his booty when he pulled that crap. PUSH him forward.

- Do not back him.
- Do not let him go back to the barn.
- You must win.
- Do not get off him unless you are in serious danger. And even then, lead him onto the trail and not back to the barn.

If you must...to get his feet moving...Id use circles. When you asked to move forward and he doesnt respond...circle circle circle circle circle circle circle circle. Eventually he will realize a few simple steps forward are MUCH less work then so many circles.
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post #3 of 7 Old 03-15-2013, 08:13 PM
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Ninja, his routine is probably getting unsaddled and returned to his stall when the ride is over. You changed his routine and he was having no part of it. Plus you'd taken him out alone and he was leaving everything that represents security to him.
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post #4 of 7 Old 03-19-2013, 05:14 PM
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I would probably do nothing but sit on him and wait for him to go forward. When he wanted to go I would make him wait a tad longer and then go.
No fight as you obviously feel you cannot win this, waiting, keeping them facing the direction you want to go bores them.

Be prepared for a long wait. One big horse I had decided in the middle of a X roads that he would not go straight on, I could have gone any other way but not straight ahead. Took me three hours to sit him out! Next time (different place) it was 20 minutes after that it became less then a couple of minutes until in the end he just realised it wasn't worth it.
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My answer is, it depends. Obviously gently nudging didn't work, so I would say start with no leg pressure. Is this a horse that would have a melt down if you got into him with a sharp verbal and crop correction when he started to get sticky? I don't want to give advice that lands you somewhere in the next time zone. Some horses give right in to a sharp correction and keep going. Others do what yours does and laugh as the gallop home without you. If your horse is sensitive, just out-stubborn him. Using only reins, no leg pressure, keep him facing the direction that you want to go and sit there like you have all day. You may have to sit out numerous tantrums, but eventually he will figure out his only choice is forward. Once you feel his body start to relax, ask for forward with only reins via the drunken sailor walk. Use one rein and then the other to get him to follow his nose. The result will be a zig zaggy, but non-the-less forward walk. When he does go forward, again depending on his personality, either praise him low key with a simple release of aids, or throw an all out party with lots of pats and good boys. Good luck.

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post #6 of 7 Old 03-20-2013, 12:29 PM Thread Starter
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luckily im stubborn too, I'll try the sitting and waiting on saturday because I have all morning :) hopefully it'll work out, will keep you posted
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post #7 of 7 Old 03-20-2013, 12:45 PM
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Subbing.

I'm curious to see how this works out.

Good luck. :)
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