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    03-20-2012, 02:44 PM
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Foal
Question She won't go!

A horse that I am using in my lessons is amazing for jumping(usually ) , we won the chase me charlie even tho we were against much bigger horses ( she's 14 hands) but on flat she will stop for no apparent reason,, or pretend she's going to the toilet and will not move for ages.

Can anyone think why she does this and how I can get her going forward again so I don't have to use all my energy kicking/squeezing her, I do carry a whip and do end up having to use it most of the time, I would like to have her going forward without me having to hit her, cos I feel harsh.

Also we are working on 'on the bit' in my lesson and all the other horses will do it , but she wont even when my trainer comes around and does it for me she wont do it and will throw a tantrum, I would really like her to be better on the flat, although im not scared of her its really annoying cos she's a brilliant pony..

Any advise will be gratefully accepted, please help me xx
     
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    03-20-2012, 07:55 PM
  #2
Yearling
Your whip will NOT hurt your horse. This sounds like a pure respect issue, so teach her that YOU are in charge. If your trainer permits do groundwork with her. Make her move on the ground, mainly her hindquarters and forequarters (?). Lunge her as well. Teach her YOU are in charge. Once you've mastered it on the ground start riding her. If she still does not want to move, then you NEED to give a firm smack with the whip. You are simply teaching her that she is in charge. She will keep doing it, until you teach her a lesson. As long as it is not a pain issue, I think this will work. You do not need to be soft on your horse, the whip is almost like a annoying tickle to them that they need to move away from.
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    03-21-2012, 03:32 PM
  #3
Foal
Maybe something is scaring her? Have you tried getting her to do circles and then moving off from there?

And if you think a whip is like an annoying tickle, try hitting yourself with it and see how it feels. Whipping a horse will only make it scared #1 and to do things because you are making them and not because they want to please you. This does not promote a respectful relationship between you and your horse.
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    03-21-2012, 03:35 PM
  #4
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by jennyandjesse    
Maybe something is scaring her? Have you tried getting her to do circles and then moving off from there?

And if you think a whip is like an annoying tickle, try hitting yourself with it and see how it feels. Whipping a horse will only make it scared #1 and to do things because you are making them and not because they want to please you. This does not promote a respectful relationship between you and your horse.
Apples and oranges -- YOUR system, skin, nerves and response to/feeling of pain are nothing like that of a horse. BEATING a horse is wrong, using appropriate levels of force in discipline is the most natural way of communicating with a horse there is.
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    03-21-2012, 03:43 PM
  #5
Foal
I don't like to use crops on my horses. Work on squeesing and letting go and squeezing and letting go, once she moves, reward her. You could also make her back up when she randomly stops or do tight circles, so she will the realize everytime I stop without being asked, I will need to work more. Good Luck! :)
     
    03-21-2012, 04:00 PM
  #6
Weanling
You're not going to out-do her in a battle of braun. Try using your biggest muscle instead of your whip...your brain.
1. She doesn't respect you
2. You aren't communicating clearly to her
3. She doesn't know what you actually want...hmm #2
4. She's challenging you...oops #1 again
Basically those two things. Respect/authority and communication.
You say she's a champ in the other areas so I'm figuring it's these two.
Like other posters have said, try the circles, turn them into figure eights, reward her for compliance. Get some ground work in there.
Pay attention to what the horse is telling you before she does one of her statue imitations. Is it a challenge, is it confusion, is it fear, etc? Figure out what is going on in the horse's head and outsmart her before she acts. You should be able to feel her body changing beneath you just before she pulls this trick. When you do, make her do a circle, figure eight, just keep her feet moving.
Oh, and a horse does feel that whip. It feels a fly gently touch down. It's going to feel you smacking on it too. How a horse responds to that pain is where the difference lies, not whether it feels it or not.
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    03-21-2012, 04:02 PM
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Foal
[QUOTE=themacpack;1418109]YOUR system, skin, nerves and response to/feeling of pain are nothing like that of a horse. QUOTE]

If a horse can feel a little tiny fly, imagine what the whip feels like. Any type of force is not needed once you gain resect.
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    03-21-2012, 04:32 PM
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[quote=jennyandjesse;1418146]
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Originally Posted by themacpack    
YOUR system, skin, nerves and response to/feeling of pain are nothing like that of a horse. QUOTE]

If a horse can feel a little tiny fly, imagine what the whip feels like. Any type of force is not needed once you gain resect.
Load of rubbish!
Yes, a hose can feel a fly but a horse can also take a double barrelled kick from another and walk away as if nothing had happened.
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    03-21-2012, 05:28 PM
  #9
Showing
Ahhh, she's a pony! Didn't anyone tell you how smart ponies are? They make horses seem ******ed by comparison. She has your number. When you have go to the crop, don't hit her hard but do repetitious taps, annoying taps, behind your leg.
     
    03-21-2012, 05:57 PM
  #10
Weanling
Does she stop when you are asking for a gait? Or does she just stop whenever she feels like it? When she is acting like she's going to pee, does she stretch out to do so? Just checking if it could be a physical problem.
If she has being doing this for a while, and getting away with it, then she has been taught how to avoid work. Round pen work with a trainer should fix her attitude, if that is indeed the issue.
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