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post #1 of 11 Old 03-18-2012, 10:24 PM Thread Starter
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Sitting the canter

Is it normal to move around a lot in the sadde while cantering? I don't bounce around or anything, but today I was riding in my western saddle and noticed that my seat was really swinging around. Is this okay or should I be able to sit more still?
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I don't ride western, but I'd say this is a cross-discpline issue. No, your seat should not move around in canter. If your seat is sliding or moving across the saddle, you have probably locked your hips and pelvis so instead of following the horses movement, you are bracing against it.

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I'm moving with him, I just move around a lot. His canter is very "big."
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A warmblood dressage horse has a 'big' canter - and we can stay quiet and still in the saddle, even during an extended canter with the horse getting down a 60m arena in only a few strides!
Its just a matter of building your core strength, unblocking your upper leg and staying with the movement.

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Your stirrups might be a tad too high.
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It could be length of striiup leathers or the saddle (seat) could be too large for you. Can you try another saddle - with a smaller seat size - and see if that fixes the problem.

My horse has a normal 14 foot canter stride - which comes off the ground around 2 foot when she's cruising and 3 ft when she's doing center extensions - and trust me that my butt is glued to that saddle. (I have a picture of her learning the flying changes and she's 4 foot off the ground - the crowd gasped when she did that - but since my butt was glued to the saddle and horse wasn't moving laterally it was no problem to retain my seat).

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I just wanted to know the answer to a simple question, I didn't want to hear you all telling me how you can sit the extended canter and flying lead changes. I'll find out somewhere else. Thank you.
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Ask someone to video your ride and review if you are really moving around as much as you think.

If you are, look to see if you are "pumping" with your horse's motion. If so, sit down deep in your saddle and keep your shoulders back. It's normal to move a bit with your horse's motion, but you shouldn't be all over the place.
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My experience and mine only: On my gelding, with his short back, a western saddle gets a lot more up & down motion than with my Aussie-style. I never did figure out how to sit in it with his canter.

What HAS worked is to roll a bit onto my thighs, using a forward seat in a western saddle. Remember, a western saddle puts you farther back, and also has a stiff tree that extends past the cantle. By rolling forward on to my thighs, the saddle can flop up & down behind my butt without moving me.

My mare has a longer back (although she is still a short-backed Arabian), and her canter is smoother. Also, I suspect a collected horse will be less bouncy, just as one on the correct lead is smoother.

Then I have a little BLM mustang pony who has a canter where you can sit & roll a cigarette mid-canter. It is his TROT that makes me want to pee blood.

All just in my limited and sometimes unorthodox opinion...good luck.

Do your legs move much, or is it just your rump in the saddle?

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I just wanted to know the answer to a simple question, I didn't want to hear you all telling me how you can sit the extended canter and flying lead changes. I'll find out somewhere else. Thank you.
it's been said on the forum before but I'll say it again, don't ask a question if you can't handle the answers you don't like
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