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post #11 of 19 Old 05-21-2013, 11:51 PM
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When you first start riding in two point your legs are going to object. Hoofbeats, we never questioned what the horses would do, we just expected them to keep cantering. Perhaps that is why they did. We did everything with the horses, as long as they didn't get hurt. We trail rode, jumped, english, western, barrel raced, you name it.
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post #12 of 19 Old 05-22-2013, 01:55 AM
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I have done a complete lesson in 2 point for cross country over 2 foot jumps just so you have a better position as most of cross country is done is a 2 point or almost 2 point position ps. It kills doing 1 hour lesson in 2 point and the more we sat back down the harder he pushed us
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I ride western and barrel race, I canter sitting for obvious reasons.

When I started teaching myself to ride english on a whim, I didn't even know what two point was. I just sat the canter like I always did, and rode with no stirrups a lot. When I took official lessons and learned a little more about jumping, I learned about two point, and while I can't say if it would be easier to learn that way or not...I found it very beneficial to me at the time.

I decided to stick with my barrel horses, but that does bring up a good point on learning.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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I've never tried two pointing in the canter, but I find that sitting helps me keep my balance and get into the rhythm a lot. (:

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When you first start riding in two point your legs are going to object. Hoofbeats, we never questioned what the horses would do, we just expected them to keep cantering. Perhaps that is why they did. We did everything with the horses, as long as they didn't get hurt. We trail rode, jumped, english, western, barrel raced, you name it.
that sounds so fun! And good for you for expecting the horse to keep cantering! I think I have to work on that!
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i have done a complete lesson in 2 point for cross country over 2 foot jumps just so you have a better position as most of cross country is done is a 2 point or almost 2 point position ps. It kills doing 1 hour lesson in 2 point and the more we sat back down the harder he pushed us
...........oh my goodness...that is crazy! Congratulations! Hahaha! I thought I had it bad having to do 3-4 laps of the arena in 2 point a couple times per lesson! I will never think that again!!!! I have always dreamed of doing cross country.....oh dear.....
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As long as you expect the horse to do something it probably will so make sure your expecting it to behave properally
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You should learn how to do both. Personally, I prefer to sit deep while cantering because it gives me better control over the horse especially when I am approaching a jump. Of course, there are many reasons to half seat or two point while cantering as well... which is why it's important to learn both! :)

Have you asked the instructor when/if you will learn how to sit the canter?


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post #19 of 19 Old 05-28-2013, 03:10 PM
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I can see how it would be beneficial to learn to ride the canter in two-point, but in the long run I feel it`s a bad shortcut. One of the hardest beginner riding skills to master is picking up a correct, engaged canter. Learning to pick up the right lead and recognize the wrong one all comes from sitting deep and asking, doing it the long and hard way to get the right result. Going into two point allows your horse to run up into the canter, not making him engage his hind or collect his energy at all and can lead to your horse learning to bolt. Also cantering in two point gives your horse more leeway to misbehave I.e. Buck, and bolt and being a beginner it could end very poorly. I learned to walk trot canter jump and work the bit before I learned what we called a half-seat. A half-seat is used in eventing, which is essentially sitting up off your horses back without resting your hands on their neck, alot like two-point and is used for galloping cross country to make it easier on your horse. But again, you render your seat useless in the half-seat so unless your highly experienced or trust your horse completely I don`t recommend it, I feel it can cause alot of bad habits to develop such as the dreaded permanent hunt seat... you know where you watch a girl in hunter ring who is completely up off her horses back and on his shoulders, which at the time looks pretty, until her horse slams on the breaks and she goes FLYING. Not fun i`ll add.

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