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        05-22-2011, 07:22 PM
      #11
    Trained
    This is a lesson horse, right? I would hope that your instructor would see your horse cantering on his own and teach you how to correct that behavior. He should not be cantering on his own. Cantering is easier that trotting for horses, so if he's weak on that side, he going to choose to canter. The next time he tries to canter without being asked, take him back to a walk. Lesson horses like to test riders. Once you show you know the game, he should stop trying.
         
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        05-22-2011, 07:25 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    She tells me to bring him back to a trot and canter him again when she sees it happen. He seems to sense she is watching and will come back down but sometimes she is watching another student and he gets away with it....I have been riding a different horse for lessons but I will be riding him for the show.
         
        05-22-2011, 07:29 PM
      #13
    Trained
    Ah, group lesson. That explains why she doesn't always stop it. Fair enough. Coming back to trot works too. Walk make a bigger impression, but just be consistent about bringing him back to trot and he should knock it off. Ironically canter-trot transitions are the best way to get a nicer canter out of him. Nicer canter's are easier to sit.
         
        05-22-2011, 07:33 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    My friend had told me to get a good set paced trot then sit up tall and swing my hips in the saddle harder to get a better canter....what do you think about that advice?
         
        05-22-2011, 07:48 PM
      #15
    Trained
    I don't know about swinging your hips in the saddle. Your job is essentially to mirror his movement. If you move against his motion, he'll probably just get more stubborn. The cool thing about school horses is that they do know more than you. He knows the correct cues for a canter. He's just making you work for it to do it properly. Every time he pops into that unbalanced canter, he's telling you "nope, not quite right. Try again". Get a good balanced trot going, then sit your butt in the saddle, open your shoulders and stay balanced over your hips, slide that outside leg back a hair, squeeze with the inside one while releasing the inside rein just a tad, and off he'll go. If you do a balanced depart, you get a balanced canter. That's what he's trying to teach you.
         
        05-22-2011, 08:17 PM
      #16
    Foal
    I f this is a lesson horse and it sounds like it is and it seems from the post that this is a horse issue and a training issue, and you are paying the coach? I would be asking them how to fix it, and if they can not fix it for you then I would be looking for a new coach/. Sorry for being blunt here but to many times riders like you get discouraged from riding by have poor help.

    Enjoy the ride and good luck.
    Rod
         
        05-22-2011, 08:20 PM
      #17
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IPHDA    
    I f this is a lesson horse and it sounds like it is and it seems from the post that this is a horse issue and a training issue, and you are paying the coach? I would be asking them how to fix it, and if they can not fix it for you then I would be looking for a new coach/. Sorry for being blunt here but to many times riders like you get discouraged from riding by have poor help.

    Enjoy the ride and good luck.
    Rod
    I agree.

    I would also bet dollars to donuts that WHERE you ask for the canter is at the start of a straight long side.
         
        05-22-2011, 08:24 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
    The cool thing about school horses is that they do know more than you. He knows the correct cues for a canter.
    Not all school horses are that well trained, :o) we would hope they were but it is always easier to blame the rider than a horse that is supposed to be trained. If she has little issue with a different horse I am going to give the rider the benefit of the doubt here.
    I have judged way to many un broke horses that are used as school horses or sold as solid beginner horses to know that a good school horse is worth their weight in gold and a bad one is good for more advanced riders wanting to learn how to train a horse not just ride properly.


    JMO
    Rod
         
        05-22-2011, 08:30 PM
      #19
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IPHDA    
    Not all school horses are that well trained, :o) we would hope they were but it is always easier to blame the rider than a horse that is supposed to be trained. If she has little issue with a different horse I am going to give the rider the benefit of the doubt here.
    I have judged way to many un broke horses that are used as school horses or sold as solid beginner horses to know that a good school horse is worth their weight in gold and a bad one is good for more advanced riders wanting to learn how to train a horse not just ride properly.


    JMO
    Rod
    I completely agree. Guess I was giving the edge to the horse in this case. Either he's perfectly capable a balanced canter and just wants some balance from his rider, or he is in need of some retraining. No way of knowing which it is. I've been on both types of horses. One school master would go around star gazing until I had every arm, leg, butt and stomach part in the proper alignment. Only then would he fall into perfect balance. Many others were simply not suitable to be school horses. I was lucky enough to know the difference between a good one and if I was paying to train someone else's horse. Hopefully it's the former with the OP. Perhaps she should ask to switch to another horse for awhile.
         
        05-22-2011, 10:14 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IPHDA    
    I f this is a lesson horse and it sounds like it is and it seems from the post that this is a horse issue and a training issue, and you are paying the coach? I would be asking them how to fix it, and if they can not fix it for you then I would be looking for a new coach/. Sorry for being blunt here but to many times riders like you get discouraged from riding by have poor help.

    Enjoy the ride and good luck.
    Rod
    We recently switched instructors and I was riding a new horse. The new instructor hasn't yet seen me ride on this horse and will on Sunday.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spyder    
    I agree.

    I would also bet dollars to donuts that WHERE you ask for the canter is at the start of a straight long side.
    I usually ask for the canter at the beginning of a corner but when he picks it up himself it is wherever he wants to pick it up. Am I picking it up where I am supposed to? Or should I pick it up at a different spot?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IPHDA    
    Not all school horses are that well trained, :o) we would hope they were but it is always easier to blame the rider than a horse that is supposed to be trained. If she has little issue with a different horse I am going to give the rider the benefit of the doubt here.
    I have judged way to many un broke horses that are used as school horses or sold as solid beginner horses to know that a good school horse is worth their weight in gold and a bad one is good for more advanced riders wanting to learn how to train a horse not just ride properly.


    JMO
    Rod
    Someone leases the school horse and she has been riding for 12 years. I have been watching her ride and the horse doesn't seem to do anything for her so I think it is my fault. I am not asking for the canter properly I guess or I get to stressed. Thanks for beleiving in me though :) Plus the horse I am currently riding is an angel to everyone so no credit for me.

    I will have to get a video up as soon as I can get someone to come down tot he barn and video tape.
         

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