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    02-29-2012, 11:05 AM
  #51
Yearling
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Originally Posted by rob    
babysmurf,i assume you ride english.have you tried raising your stirrups a little and keeping your heels down?
I officially ride both, but I try and avoid riding english if I can (just can't get into it)

For my english saddle I have the leathers one hole past "correct" length, which still doesn't work well for me. (My knees are shot, and will cramp up if I have them at the "correct length") But like a good horsey person, I suck it up, LOL

I have a 38" inseam, so my legs are kind of on the long end of the spectrum. And not to sound self-promoting, but keeping my heels down is actually one of the things that I do really well. At the correct length, if you are level and looking at me, my heels are even with the bottom of the barrel (haha, that sounds funny) anyway, to make contact I have to bring my leg back and heels slightly up otherwise my feet are at a really sharp angle, which stinks with field boots on. I use longer spurs (@ 2") which are curved in and has helped close that gap.
     
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    02-29-2012, 11:15 AM
  #52
rob
Weanling
Babysmurf,i understand.i ride cutter's and I suffer with the pain so I can turn my toes east and west and my stirrups are up so I can squeeze and get into a horses ribcage.
     
    03-01-2012, 01:35 AM
  #53
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Originally Posted by busysmurf    
I officially ride both, but I try and avoid riding english if I can (just can't get into it)

For my english saddle I have the leathers one hole past "correct" length, which still doesn't work well for me. (My knees are shot, and will cramp up if I have them at the "correct length") But like a good horsey person, I suck it up, LOL

I have a 38" inseam, so my legs are kind of on the long end of the spectrum. And not to sound self-promoting, but keeping my heels down is actually one of the things that I do really well. At the correct length, if you are level and looking at me, my heels are even with the bottom of the barrel (haha, that sounds funny) anyway, to make contact I have to bring my leg back and heels slightly up otherwise my feet are at a really sharp angle, which stinks with field boots on. I use longer spurs (@ 2") which are curved in and has helped close that gap.

Maybe try swan neck spurs, they are made for long-legged riders and won't require you to rotate your ankle as much.
     
    03-01-2012, 02:01 PM
  #54
Yearling
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Originally Posted by jumanji321    
Maybe try swan neck spurs, they are made for long-legged riders and won't require you to rotate your ankle as much.
But that would make sense, why would I want to do such a thing I just started turning mine upside down, works well enough
     
    03-01-2012, 02:08 PM
  #55
Trained
Spurs are an aid.
If you cannot control your lower leg you have no business riding with any kind of spur.
I use 2 kinds of spurs, but not every time I ride. I have a set of Cavalry repro brass spurs with short rowels. I also have a set of Prince of Wales blunt spurs.
The rowels are best used (for MY needs) with a finished horse. I may ride all day with the spurs on and never use them. Or...I might have to move my horse out quickly and then I'm glad I didn't leave them at home or camp that day.
The blunt spurs are excellent for schooling young, sensitive horses.
It's not safe under any circumstances to pull your leg way out and kick a horse who isn't listening. You can easily lose your balance that way and fall off.
To use any spur correctly you rotate your toe away from forward and brush the spur on the horse's side. He will feel that.
We should really understand humane vs. inhumane behavior. Wearing spurs isn't inhumane.
     
    03-06-2012, 12:00 AM
  #56
Foal
I've trained my horse off of ball point spurs. He has a spur stop and if I tap both lightly at the same time he backs. Tap just the right he pivots to the left and vice versa. I never use them hard unless he's ignoring the aids. But by teaching him this way I rarely have to touch his mouth.
     
    03-06-2012, 12:10 AM
  #57
rob
Weanling
Very good t.i always say ,if your legs are there,why not use them.and it's better than tearing up his mouth or wearing out your shoulders.
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    03-06-2012, 12:26 AM
  #58
Foal
I just don't think spurs are cruel unless you make them that way. If you get a nice rounded spur rather than a rowel it's far less harsh. Obviously don't go jabbing their sides, but if they are ignoring you or don't quite get the hint that leg means go a little reinforcement isn't going to kill them. Hopefully eventually you will have to use the spur less and less if that's the route you're looking to go in. I just don't think they are any more cruel than a crop or a whip unless you abuse them.
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    03-06-2012, 09:15 PM
  #59
Foal
OK I am new to the forum, (somewhat new to riding) so go easy on me. I have a 15.4 QH that is as stubburn as a mule. I am a larger person, but he is a large very well fed horse so that should not be the problem. I have done all sorts of ground work, spinning, serpintines, Etc. Jordan is just extremely slow and will not pick up the pace with anything I do. He will decide to take off at a run for no reason, so I know he can do it. Because he is semi unpredictable I do not want anything else in my hands, I.e. Whip. I see a lot of you believe in the spurs, have you had any problems with using them on horses that have never had them used on them? Bucking, rearing, that kind of thing? I know its more of a grazing touch and not a stabbing. Just wanting to know what to expect.?
     
    03-06-2012, 09:40 PM
  #60
Foal
When I got my horse he had hardly had a person on him, let alone spurs. All he did when I used them for the first time was move forward very quickly. I wouldn't say he took off, but it was fast haha but I'd think that some horses might buck. I wouldn't think they'd rear, but all horses are different.
     

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