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post #71 of 90 Old 03-07-2012, 07:18 PM
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I may just have to take a few classes to try to work this out.
That's what you should have done from the start.

It's highly likely that an experienced rider can get on your horse and make him go without spurring him or slapping him with a crop.
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post #72 of 90 Old 03-07-2012, 08:00 PM
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That's what you should have done from the start.

It's highly likely that an experienced rider can get on your horse and make him go without spurring him or slapping him with a crop.
Bear in mind the guy telling you this hasn't been riding quite a year yet.

Lessons are a great idea. I think you are wise to realize that refusing to go is just as much of an evasion as rushing off. Since your horse is doing both, you could find yourself in a dangerous situation. So I think lessons and training are a great idea. Spurs - not so much.
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I don't use spurs. If I can't get my horse to move without them, I'm doing something wrong as a trainer. IMO.
And no, I don't think they're abusive, either.

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Just so it is known, I said kinda new to riding. I owned horses 15 years ago, but have not ridden since. I rode on a daily basis back then and could do just about anything on that mare. I rode western and bareback, she was neck reined and I could control her with just my knees. I have ridden other horses as well, so gentle, some with some attitude. My problem is I have not ridden in 15 years and I now have a super stubborn gelding. Yes I may need a refresher on some things, but I am not a total newbie.
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Just so it is known, I said kinda new to riding. I owned horses 15 years ago, but have not ridden since. I rode on a daily basis back then and could do just about anything on that mare. I rode western and bareback, she was neck reined and I could control her with just my knees. I have ridden other horses as well, so gentle, some with some attitude. My problem is I have not ridden in 15 years and I now have a super stubborn gelding. Yes I may need a refresher on some things, but I am not a total newbie.
Yay for you getting back into it! And even bigger yay to you for accepting you may need a little refresher. Some ppl don't do that & make things a lot worse.
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That's what you should have done from the start.

It's highly likely that an experienced rider can get on your horse and make him go without spurring him or slapping him with a crop.
Pup is doing just fine, they're recognizing a problem & seeking out positive ways to correct the problem instead of ignoring it or having the mentality that they know everything and put down anyone else's suggestions (like seems to be your style, mildot).
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Bear in mind the guy telling you this hasn't been riding quite a year yet.
So that makes the advice any less correct?
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OP, some things to think about:

Is your horse in discomfort from the saddle or tack?

Is he really sensitive to rider balance? Some just flat stop if they feel the rider is off balance, particularly to the front.
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Most people I know ride in spurs from the first day they back a horse.

However, these are people with the ability to say when they do and don't need them. If they're there, then they don't have to fuss with getting off and putting them on.

The first time I rode Duffy at my place it was with spurs. And was until Christmas time when I learnt an invaluable lesson. We had a tester moment, she refused to go forewards, and as I can't carry a whip with her, I asked, then gave her a firmer cue, which she didn't appreciate and threw a buck, then threw a huge buck and I landed in the dirt, on my back. When I got up, the second buck was due to me clinging on with my spurs and I quite literally skinned her.

I took them off and haven't ridden in them since.

Now, my old man, you had no choice. All horse's sides are sensitive- how do you reckon they feel the flies and swat them off?

But he ignored leg aids in the beginning.

As for whips, they can be just as bad, I've seen a horse come of our riding school on more than one occassion with huge welts all over his rump.

Its not the quipment, but how you use it, and if you aren't responsible, or steady enough- don't blinking use it.
Anyone who wants to say 'its not norma to wear them blah blah blah'... its not 'normal/natural' to ride a horse, so go stick it in a field.
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Spurs are an extension of your leg. They allow your aids to be more precise and clear. My horse gets ridden in spurs if we are having a real ride and not just going out for a hack. Spurs should only be used by someone that is advanced enough to know when to turn their spur "on" and "off." Spurs are never to be used as a weapon or punishment, simply for making your requests to your horse more clear and to get a more immediate response.



I believe this too. You should only use them an extension of your leg. And only if you are experienced enough of a rider to know when and when not to use them. Personally I always ride with them. Whether I use them or not while I'm riding is a different story. Some times my mare needs them and other times she doesnt.
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