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Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck I taught my horse to stop by seat alone in about 20 minutes. We started at

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Old 10-22-2009, 10:43 PM   #11
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I taught my horse to stop by seat alone in about 20 minutes. We started at the walk. I'd get him going on a nice free walk, leave the reins loose and make sure I'm following along with my seat without any tension, or at least as little as possible. To cue him to stop, I would stretch my upper body up, shoulders back, tuck my pelvis under a little, stop following the motion, and the magic piece of the puzzle was to close my thighs. The first few times, he didn't know what I was doing up there, so I had to use the reins immediately after closing my thighs. After about 4 times, he began to understand what stilling my seat meant and would at least slow down his walk. I'd still use the reins for the complete stop. A few more tries he was stopping on the closed thigh cue, no reins. Once he got it at walk, we moved onto trot and canter. He had it all down in no time. I practice it a few times almost every ride while he's cooling out. He's gotten so tuned into what I'm doing up there, that all I have to do is close my thighs now and he responds. Pretty much it's whatever you and your horse agree are acceptable cues and to practice it until you have complete cooperation. It's a very fun thing to teach to your horse.
I did this, too. I also used the same method to teach her how to stop with just a voice command. Now she knows how to stop with either JUST my seat or JUST my voice. She caught on really quickly.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:55 AM   #12
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This is basically what worked for me too, but it took us more like 5 rides to get it =). I also had to use a little rein and a little woah the first few times. Tanner really likes to please and he figured it out quickly. If he is in a flighty mood though, I still have to revert back to rein and woah. Like anything I ask as subtly as possible and escalate as needed, then stop asking the second I get what I want. Lacy seems smart and willing, I think if you show her what you want (rein, woah, etc.) while doing the escalation method, she'll catch right on!!


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I taught my horse to stop by seat alone in about 20 minutes. We started at the walk. I'd get him going on a nice free walk, leave the reins loose and make sure I'm following along with my seat without any tension, or at least as little as possible. To cue him to stop, I would stretch my upper body up, shoulders back, tuck my pelvis under a little, stop following the motion, and the magic piece of the puzzle was to close my thighs. The first few times, he didn't know what I was doing up there, so I had to use the reins immediately after closing my thighs. After about 4 times, he began to understand what stilling my seat meant and would at least slow down his walk. I'd still use the reins for the complete stop. A few more tries he was stopping on the closed thigh cue, no reins. Once he got it at walk, we moved onto trot and canter. He had it all down in no time. I practice it a few times almost every ride while he's cooling out. He's gotten so tuned into what I'm doing up there, that all I have to do is close my thighs now and he responds. Pretty much it's whatever you and your horse agree are acceptable cues and to practice it until you have complete cooperation. It's a very fun thing to teach to your horse.
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When you talk about stopping with your seat it is going to be different for each discipline. A reiner is going to be cued and do it differently then a WP horse or a Dressage horse.

However you need to start at the walk and cue the horse and you will need to use your reins to begin with. Once the horse stops back them up then and this is the MOST important part of teaching a horse to stop. STAND STILL. Do not move for a few seconds to a few min. When I am teaching one of my young horses to stop the horse spends as much time just standing still as it does moving.

Once the horse has the stop at the walk then move up to the trot and then the lope again standing still if very important. You want them hunting the stop.

Again how you cue the stop will depend on your discipline so I will not go into that as how I do it with my reiners will again be different then if you are riding a horse under english tack or even WP.
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I dunno about stopping with your seat, but I am teaching my three year old to stop the way his sires owner teaches his horses... when we want them to stop, we push our legs forwards near the horses shoulders and say 'whoa up' or 'hoooe'...
That is a really bad way to teach a horse to halt. You want a horse to step under themselves into the halt, and if you're legs aren't under you, your horse's legs won't be under him.
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[quote=Clementine;439604]That is a really bad way to teach a horse to halt. You want a horse to step under themselves into the halt, and if you're legs aren't under you, your horse's legs won't be under him.[/quote

First of all I belive the poster is western riding so we put are legs forward and lean back as a cue to stop.
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When you talk about stopping with your seat it is going to be different for each discipline. A reiner is going to be cued and do it differently then a WP horse or a Dressage horse.

However you need to start at the walk and cue the horse and you will need to use your reins to begin with. Once the horse stops back them up then and this is the MOST important part of teaching a horse to stop. STAND STILL. Do not move for a few seconds to a few min. When I am teaching one of my young horses to stop the horse spends as much time just standing still as it does moving.

Once the horse has the stop at the walk then move up to the trot and then the lope again standing still if very important. You want them hunting the stop.

Again how you cue the stop will depend on your discipline so I will not go into that as how I do it with my reiners will again be different then if you are riding a horse under english tack or even WP.


Thank you this is what I wanted to explain
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:32 PM   #17
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That is a really bad way to teach a horse to halt. You want a horse to step under themselves into the halt, and if you're legs aren't under you, your horse's legs won't be under him.
Actually is the correct way to ask a western horse to stop. Unless you are talking WP and use a spur stop.

If you did not sit back onto your pockets and move your feet forward you would come off the front of your horse. That is not a fun thing at all.







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Old 11-02-2009, 01:42 PM   #18
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i squeeze my thighs and sit really deep to block his movement and if he doesnt slow down or listen i gently pull back one rein.
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Actually is the correct way to ask a western horse to stop. Unless you are talking WP and use a spur stop.

If you did not sit back onto your pockets and move your feet forward you would come off the front of your horse. That is not a fun thing at all.







actually nrhareiner, you shouldnt push your feet forward, you should just be tucking your but under. if the rider is doing it correctly your body will still be in alignment it just looks as though your legs are forward because of the angle of the horses back. if your feet are too far infront of you then your roll backs will be sloppy.
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No your feet will go forward. Look at the pictures. The feet are in front of the firth. You will role your hips under so you are sitting on your pockets your feet got forward heals down as you put more weight into the stirrups.

Yes your body is still straight or in line but your feet are forward. This is why reining saddles are made as they are so the stirrups swing free and forward. The set is deeper and set further back.
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