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    04-08-2014, 10:11 PM
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Foal
There;s something about me that really pisses off horses

Hi, I fell off a horse today. The school's sweetest horse who apparently has never thrown a tantrum with anyone, rebelled against me today. I have been riding her every week for almost two months with no issue. I even applied what I learnt about easing off the calf pressure at another place and felt I was riding her better - the instructor said my position improved. But today the horse kept refusing to go the way I wanted. She kept cutting corners and turning inward when I wanted her to stay close to the fence. She started this two mins into the lesson. She had never been like this. Whenever I wanted her to turn left, she would go right. This is despite my pulling on the outside rein so she wouldn't turn inwards and take off for the opposite direction. When we started to canter, I tried to make her turn right she but she took off in the opposite direction and wouldn't stop. No matter how hard I pulled. I finally fell off. When the instructor made me get up her and ride again, she showed me reluctance again at the first chance. What's going on? There are really no horses left for me to ride. This is a horse that children ride! And according to the instructor, has never misbehaved with anyone.. So why are they bullying me to such an extent?
     
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    04-08-2014, 10:32 PM
  #2
Trained
Video. That isn't the answer you want, but it is very hard to analyze a problem sight unseen. Even some still pictures would help.
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    04-08-2014, 10:52 PM
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Started
I will not tell you to give up. I will not tell you to not go ride rental horses nose to tail for some time until you feel you are past this block.

And like bsms said, video would help.

However, I have met two people who had things go wrong repeatedly.

One kid always had horses lay down with him. Always. I put him on a wonderful old Dobbin of a gelding and the horse laid down! I put him on one of mine. A prince of a horse. I ponied my horse. He laid down. No lie. I still can't believe it.

The other kid, a teen girl, always had horses rear with her. Sull up and rear. Same routine. Tried to put her on something great. It reared. My boss put her on his kids' horse. That horse kept trying to pop up. Boss weighed too much for her to get very high. He really hung on.

Anyway, my point is that I've seen inexplicable things. Though it is so rare, I encourage you to try somewhere else, something else to get to ride.
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    04-09-2014, 12:10 AM
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This is the fault of your instructor. You should not even be cantering the hrose if you are having trouble with her pulling away from your rein. If it's bad at the walk or trot, it will be double bad at the canter. Your instructor should have known that and helped you deal with this before allowing/making you cnater. Everything I have seen you post about your lessons and the horses you are being given to ride, and the instruction sounds like you have never had the benefit of GOOD instruction. I feel for you, becuase I know your choices are limited. But, , is it possible for you to find a person that you like and respect, who perhaps has their own quiet horse, who could help you one on one?
If you love riding so much that you are willing to hang in there , past being rubbed off and falling off and all the other issues, then you deserve a better teacher than you've got!
     
    04-09-2014, 02:03 AM
  #5
Foal
I'd also guess bad riding due to bad instructions.
You do something little wrong. Horse shows reaction you don't understand and try to counteract, probably not correctly, either. Horse gets more confused. Maybe you get frustrated, give false signals with more force. Horse starts to get pissed. Horse bolts. You pull as hard as you can. Horse shuts you out completely and runs till you drop.
I wouldn't take it personal, I'm quite sure it has nothing to do with you, just your riding. Or do horses nip and kick and run away from you on the ground, as well?
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    04-09-2014, 06:43 AM
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When I started learning to ride, there was no horse that would go slow for me. All would rush, and, when cantering came into game, all would canter or gallop out of control - even the slowest, calmest dobbins that others could not even force to trot - and most of them tried changing directions suddenly, ignoring all my cues! It took me showing this problem to a very professional trainer, who saw that my hips were misaligned and each time I cantered or even just plodded around, my weaker hip would dig deep into the horses' back in a diagonal line, causing them discomfort and urging them to go, go, go. When I corrected that, this problem disappeared.

What I'm trying to say - have you checked your own body with the help of a professional? Maybe you need a chiro, or some other kind of physical therapy? However, it would really help if you posted a video or at least some pictures. I didn't see or feel my own problem until it was pointed out to me, as I was so used to the misalignment of my own body.
     
    04-09-2014, 07:25 AM
  #7
Showing
I can't help but wonder if you are putting more weight in one stirrup which causes the saddle to dig in on one side. If you are, it gets worse at the trot and even worse at the canter. This is a common problem and it seems only instructors interested in dressage correct this. As you ride away at the walk from someone watching, your shoulder and hips should line up like this "I" . When a rider allows a hip to collapse the riding position looks more like this ">". As the hip comes up the rider drops the shoulder to compensate. The right handed usually collapses the right side. This can result in losing the right stirrup from time to time or feeling it should be shortened.
     
    04-09-2014, 09:14 AM
  #8
Foal
I've been having trouble with my leased horse bending to the inside. She consistently pointed her nose to the right, or to the outside of a circle. I tried to correct with legs or reins, to no avail. Mind you, this horse is also highly reactive and very spooky, so I kinda figured she was always watching the hedges and Next Thing Around the Bend. This past weekend, two hours into a trail ride, I realized I was leading with my left hip. My right hip was slung back slightly. I began consciously correcting my seat, and the persistent bend virtually vanished. The point? Whatever you are doing could be something physically minor to you, but something that screams orders at your horse.
     
    04-09-2014, 09:27 AM
  #9
Foal
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
this is the fault of your instructor. You should not even be cantering the hrose if you are having trouble with her pulling away from your rein. If it's bad at the walk or trot, it will be double bad at the canter. Your instructor should have known that and helped you deal with this before allowing/making you cnater. Everything I have seen you post about your lessons and the horses you are being given to ride, and the instruction sounds like you have never had the benefit of GOOD instruction. I feel for you, becuase I know your choices are limited. But, , is it possible for you to find a person that you like and respect, who perhaps has their own quiet horse, who could help you one on one?
If you love riding so much that you are willing to hang in there , past being rubbed off and falling off and all the other issues, then you deserve a better teacher than you've got!
^^ THIS! Absolutely!^^ Mavis, you really shouldn't be cantering until you figure out why you're consistently being thrown!

Second, Saddlebag mentioned your posture. Do you have scoliosis (curvature of the spine) that would affect the distribution of your weight? I do, and it affects how my horse tracks to the left. (She kind of runs crooked -- butt to the wall, face to the inside -- when we track left, but it's not her fault at all. She's responding to my seat, which feels balanced to me, but obviously not to her.) I can't imagine that this would make a well-trained lesson horse throw you, though.

Are you sure that you're being thrown? Or are you falling off?

I agree that it would be helpful to see a video; but moreover, in my humble opinion -- with a nod to the much more experienced among us -- you might benefit from riding in a Western saddle for a while, just til we figure out what's going on with your form.
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    04-09-2014, 12:57 PM
  #10
Foal
Hi, I have cantered on this horse for the past two months with no issue. In fact, she has never shown such disobedience till today when she did it two minutes into the lesson. She refused to follow the other horse in front of her, and would keep cutting the circle smaller. I have ridden her this way before and she was fine. I had ridden her on her own, without following any horse before. And she was fine. She cantered large on an arena beautifully and we were a great team.

But today, was really something else. She showed refusal early in the lesson, I directed her with my reins. She protested by going the other way and pulled very hard. I could feel early on that today was different. The more we went on, the more I tried to educate her, the angrier I could feel she was becoming. So by the time, the instructor shouted to whip her, which I didn't even have to.. she was already picking up speed very quickly on her own. When he shouted canter, she just took off like a bullet..I pulled right rein to stay on the right rein, she stubbornly refused and darted across the arena, going very fast. I don't know if she deliberately wanted to throw me off. But she definitely didn't want me to continue telling her what to do. Everything I told her to do, she contradicted me. When I had to get back on her after the fall, I tried to trot her.. and she again tried shied away from the direction I wanted.. with such determination I decided I had enough (Falls) for the day.

This is a pony that children have ridden with no problems. Why do I always set off a horse that is supposedly placid and extremely safe?

On the ground, horses don't seem to have an issue with me. On trail rides<< I ride ok too. It's only the arena..

:(

I don't even know if my riding school has any good horses left for me to ride. I just set even the most calm ones off.. SOB

My neck hurts a lot from the fall, and I even knocked my head as my helmet was loose..

Re unbalanced body, yes.. I know I have a heavier right side. But then the horse was refusing me for both directions.. even the right rein. And btw, this is not the first time a horse refuses to go the direction I want. Steering a horse shouldn't require such deliberate and strong hand aides. When the instructor has to tell me to pull harder and the horse ignores me, something is seriously wrong.
     

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