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post #51 of 60 Old 01-24-2012, 10:08 PM
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I wish my paint would carry her head like Sky. I went for a leisurely canter English today and she was just trying to run HARD.


I ditto that! I sometime feel like X just keeps his head high and either runs hard all over the place too, or if I try to make him slow down, he just goes slow and almost sluggish. :/ Like your trainers voice too. She's very calm, but clear and encouraging. :)

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I ditto that! I sometime feel like X just keeps his head high and either runs hard all over the place too, or if I try to make him slow down, he just goes slow and almost sluggish. :/ Like your trainers voice too. She's very calm, but clear and encouraging. :)
She's amaaaaaaazing! She puts up with my fears but helps me through it. She puts up with my random giggling (I have this problem of just laughing at awkward times, usually when someone is yelling at me as a reflex lol..) and she knows what she's doing.

Seriously I would recommend her till the moon turned purple!

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You're doing very well.

I know it's hard (believe me I do) but keep traying to relax on him. One day soon it will all click and your seat will not come off the saddle unless you want it to and your hands will smoothly follow his mouth.

He's a good looking boy. I bet I'd have fun on top of him.
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You're doing very well.

I know it's hard (believe me I do) but keep traying to relax on him. One day soon it will all click and your seat will not come off the saddle unless you want it to and your hands will smoothly follow his mouth.

He's a good looking boy. I bet I'd have fun on top of him.
Hehehe, well it'd be a nice challenge for him! He truly loves to be ridden.. and he's very talented. He keeps pulling stuff out of his noggin and surprising everyone!

Thank you! So there's improvement?

I think I want to post the trotting/leg yield videos (there's soooooo many so I'd probably link them all together on youtube) so I can get a critique.

I'm trying to relax! Prior to him, I literally couldn't relax. Not even in a drawn bath, in a hammock. I'm a very busy bee and always on the move. So it's a biiiiiig change for me, and him.

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post #55 of 60 Old 01-25-2012, 04:40 AM
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Thank you! So there's improvement?
It's hard to say not having seen videos of you riding over time. What I can say is that your first time cantering looks a whole lot better than mine did.

In other words, your skills are above average considering where you are in your training.

Does that make sense?
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It's hard to say not having seen videos of you riding over time. What I can say is that your first time cantering looks a whole lot better than mine did.

In other words, your skills are above average considering where you are in your training.

Does that make sense?
Well thank you

It makes sense for Sky, since he's improved tons in this past year but I have trouble gauging myself. But I'm glad that I'm doing better and I'm starting to get the hand of it.

Thank you!

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WOOO!!! You improved TREMENDOUSLY from that lunge-line lesson you posted before. Way to go!!

I'm just learning to canter, too. Isn't it fun? So much nicer than trotting, although your sitting trot looks pretty good too!

From the vast depths of my three weeks experience at learning to canter... I find that if I keep my weight a little bit "back" and keep my lower back a little bit rounded, I don't jounce in the saddle. Butt stays where it is supposed to (mostly). If I do start jouncing a bit, which happens about 1/3 the time on the upward transition for me, focusing on leaning a little back - not a lot - and consciously relaxing my lower back and hips fixes the problem immediately. Relaxed hips seem to be essential.

On thing my trainer told me that helped is to think of the longest part of my leg not being from knee to ankle, but from hip to knee. She said it helps some people to think of pointing their knee to look at the ground. This doesn't work for me - I wind up tightening my glutes when I do that - but just wanted to throw it out in case it's helpful. For me, just focusing on keeping my hip flexors open and loose was the trick.

+1 on thinking of the rein motion as back-and-forth. My trainer said to let my hands belong to the horse at the canter. It's not like posting at all, where the movement in your arms is up-and-down (opening down as you go up, closing up as you come down). It's much more like keeping contact on the bit at the walk, where you find your arms opening forward and closing back.

The other thing she said that has been super helpful so far is to pay attention to the motion of the canter, and notice when my legs naturally come against the horse. I couldn't, for the life of me, say where that is in the gait, but I can definitely feel it. She said just make an extra squeeze there, when my legs would be on anyhow, when I need to keep the horse going. (And I have to do this a LOT - Huey's out to pasture for the winter, so I'm learning to canter on a Schoolmaster, who is lazy as hell, and has all those wonderful School Horse practices, like dropping his head into the reins and pulling on my hands a lot, while dropping out of the canter into a trot. Huey has the opposite thing - you touch him like you want to canter, and he's going to be off like a shot. Much better, IMO, to be learning this on the School Horse than Big Red the High Speed Freight Train...)
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WOOO!!! You improved TREMENDOUSLY from that lunge-line lesson you posted before. Way to go!!

I'm just learning to canter, too. Isn't it fun? So much nicer than trotting, although your sitting trot looks pretty good too!

From the vast depths of my three weeks experience at learning to canter... I find that if I keep my weight a little bit "back" and keep my lower back a little bit rounded, I don't jounce in the saddle. Butt stays where it is supposed to (mostly). If I do start jouncing a bit, which happens about 1/3 the time on the upward transition for me, focusing on leaning a little back - not a lot - and consciously relaxing my lower back and hips fixes the problem immediately. Relaxed hips seem to be essential.

On thing my trainer told me that helped is to think of the longest part of my leg not being from knee to ankle, but from hip to knee. She said it helps some people to think of pointing their knee to look at the ground. This doesn't work for me - I wind up tightening my glutes when I do that - but just wanted to throw it out in case it's helpful. For me, just focusing on keeping my hip flexors open and loose was the trick.

+1 on thinking of the rein motion as back-and-forth. My trainer said to let my hands belong to the horse at the canter. It's not like posting at all, where the movement in your arms is up-and-down (opening down as you go up, closing up as you come down). It's much more like keeping contact on the bit at the walk, where you find your arms opening forward and closing back.

The other thing she said that has been super helpful so far is to pay attention to the motion of the canter, and notice when my legs naturally come against the horse. I couldn't, for the life of me, say where that is in the gait, but I can definitely feel it. She said just make an extra squeeze there, when my legs would be on anyhow, when I need to keep the horse going. (And I have to do this a LOT - Huey's out to pasture for the winter, so I'm learning to canter on a Schoolmaster, who is lazy as hell, and has all those wonderful School Horse practices, like dropping his head into the reins and pulling on my hands a lot, while dropping out of the canter into a trot. Huey has the opposite thing - you touch him like you want to canter, and he's going to be off like a shot. Much better, IMO, to be learning this on the School Horse than Big Red the High Speed Freight Train...)

Thank you! :) It was a lot of fun! But yeah he really opened up his canter in that last video. Being the novice I am, I thought he was galloping out of control, but I felt so good with him I just let him do it, haha. It always seems faster in the saddle than from a different perspecive.

Wow what different horses! I can imagine you trying to learn on Huey.. it's be fun but it'd be very quick on your feet learning. I look forward to hearing about you guys getting it down, though! :)

I definitely like the idea of the longest part of my leg being hip to knee.. that helps me just sitting there. I have this awful habit of curling up and using my ankle/heel instead of my whole leg so that may just be what I needed to hear! Thanks!

Yeah my trainer prefers I get behind the vertical (via leaning back) a little because it helps me to stretch down and then find center again.. rather than going into jockey curly position

:) thanks ThursdayNext!

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Sky is so **** Gorgeous! I can't wait to see how far you guys go together! Just curious how old is he?

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He's 10, going on 11 this April :)

Thank you! I'll be sure to let him know! He gets more beautiful as he gets more confident!

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