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post #31 of 155 Old 11-10-2013, 11:11 AM
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That is way too young for a pony or horse to be broke in and it might have led to some physical problems
Its possible that what you are seeing as him being excited could actually be him reacting to some sort of pain in his back and that should really be looked into
As for the smaller riding area - you could probably make something using plastic 'tread in' posts and wide electric tape quite cheaply on part of your field.
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I know it's too young!! But it wasn't me that owned him at the time. He doesn't have any pain I think it is just excitement! And now the fence is kinda down and he caught his legs in the fence today after running around because he tried escaping..!?!?!?! But thankfully he bared with me for a few mins.. before getting caught again!! But then I put him somewhere else!!! I have nowhere to ride him basically!!! Unless I fence off part of the paddock :(
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I would suggest tons of ground work. Are you afraid? It may also be that he can feel this. If he's young, try to spend more time with him, lunge him to get some energy out. Make sure it isn't something in the area you're riding in that's scaring him. A trainer always helps, if you can get one, I would highly recommend it.
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I know it's too young!! But it wasn't me that owned him at the time. He doesn't have any pain I think it is just excitement! And now the fence is kinda down and he caught his legs in the fence today after running around because he tried escaping..!?!?!?! But thankfully he bared with me for a few mins.. before getting caught again!! But then I put him somewhere else!!! I have nowhere to ride him basically!!! Unless I fence off part of the paddock :(
Then fence off part of your paddock - or get your parents to do it - like I said you can do it quickly and fairly cheaply with tread in plastic stakes and electric tape. At least he wont get the idea that he has a lot of space around him to race around in and as he settles you can make the area you work in bigger.
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Is there someone who will ride with you? That can have a calming effect on a young horse. If not, you might bite the dirt a few more times but it will make you a better rider and you teach you to figure out when he's even thinking about getting up to no good. He may be overly sensitive to leg pressure so try to be mindful of that.
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Yeah maybe the big space is too much excitement for him!! He works better in an arena..but we don't have one!!! Im getting lunging equipment soon! Thanks guys!
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Hope you can sort him out as it doesn't sound as if you're having too much fun at present
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No, I'm not having too much fun. :( I do hope this works out too! I wish everything would just work out for once!! :(
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Please, please get lessons.

Let me tell you about me. I've been riding for 11 or 12 of my 19 years, riding seriously [meaning competitively, though at a local level and very sporadically due to money constraints] for nearly 5 now. 6 years ago I got my first young horse. He was 5 years old but freshly broke and sans jigging I had all the same problems as you. I ended up terrified of him but was still too stubborn and prideful to get lessons. In the end I refused to ride him for an entire year, during which time my mother put training and miles on him, and then when I started riding him again I fixed my relationship with him... but sadly about 6 months after that he started doing strange things, concerning things, like falling randomly to the ground under saddle. We had him looked at by a vet, the decision was made to retire him, and in the end due to him not being marketable and us not being able to afford to keep a horse we weren't really using for anything [he was by then no good as a pasture puff as he kept beating up our other horses] he was euthed.

Anyway. I was too stubborn and too prideful to learn from THAT experience. Though I did buy an educated horse around when Latte retired, I had... ALL the same problems again, except this horse was faster and I got badly hurt coming off him. And I only got lessons because Mum told me if I didn't I wasn't allowed to ride off the property anymore. Long story short I learned that a lot of the bolting [not all] was my fault, how not to cause it, and how to deal with it when it happened. Those tricks didn't work on my horse at the time, because he had learned he could ignore his bit, so I did have to step it up [but I do NOT recommend this on a young horse - my boy was older and very much set in his ways], but by the time I sent him on lease a few weeks ago he was back in a snaffle for everything, because I had learned to be more effective and he had learned he had to listen. I stopped lessons when I stepped up the metal in his mouth because my trainer, not understanding my nerves or what I was feeling from my horse, was very anti me using more than a snaffle. I've only had a few since.

Using what I learned from my time with Monty, I have since broken my current horse to saddle, a 3yo Thoroughbred filly, with only very minimal help. This is NOT an ideal situation and I guarantee you I have left some big holes in her training [if I only knew what they were so I could fix them!] but after three years of riding a horse that was dead to pretty much every aid I knew what I did NOT want to allow her to develop and so she is light and responsive and has a VERY good stop. I seem to have made her lazy, but that's okay, because she does perk up and go when asked. I just have to work for it, but that's nothing new! I haven't HAD a non-lazy, non-quiet horse. Mostly because I refuse to ride a hot, jiggy, half-feral nutcase. They get trained to stand quietly before they get trained to move!

My beautiful little Thoroughbred is the best horse I've ever had but full credit goes to HER for how good she is, because quite honestly I do not and did not have the experience to deal with training my own horse without qualified and experienced supervision - and I have, as I said, about 6 or 7 years of experience on you.

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If you need to fence off a bit of the paddock, then do it. A bit of paddock taken off isn't too big a deal if it means you get to ride somewhat more safely. If you are currently riding him in his own paddock, in a big area, there is little wonder that he is giving you trouble.
How do you know your horse has no pain? Have you had him vetted recently and had his saddle fitted in the last 3-6 months? When you had lessons, what sort of horses did you ride - lazy school horses or silly youngsters?
At 13 I was very much like you, full on confidence and thought that I knew it all and was invincible. It took me getting thrown and pinned against a gate by a horse, then being dragged in the same incident leading me to tear all of my ligaments and a number of tendons through my hip and groin, and an almost complete tear of a muscle up my back, to make me realise that maybe I didn't know it all and maybe I could actually get hurt.

Try to talk your parents into allowing you to have a couple of lessons on your horse. It is not on a 'want' basis, you NEED some help with this horse for your own safety, and for the comfort of the horse. There are no ifs, buts or maybes here.

It sounds to me like this horse has had a very checkered past in regards to training. Being broken as a long yearling by a 16 year old boy with limited experience, then as a 3 year old going to a 13 year old girl also with limited experience. I don't think this is entirely your fault OP, and it is most certainly not the horse's fault. Unfortunately he has had poor training and this behaviour is all he knows. He hasn't been taught differently.
If it is allowed to continued, the risk of you being badly injured or even killed is highly probable, and the same risk applies to your horse. If he throws you off and injures you badly, can you afford to have months off school and have to repeat a year? Will your parents keep a horse sitting in the paddock that is potentially dangerous, or will they try to sell it? If they sell, they have to disclose his behavioural issues, meaning he has a good chance of being sold into poor, incapable hands or potentially being dogged. If you can stop the cycle now, by getting some quality, professional help, then you are a smart girl!
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