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        11-18-2013, 02:26 AM
      #61
    Yearling
    I have avoided commenting here, and hope I don't regret it.

    My best advice is to get an experienced person (lessons would be ideal) to work with you and the horse (or atleast watch you ride and give corrections where needed). However, the best advice that can be offered based off willingness (or lack of) is to fence a place in to ride, spend time working on your riding and hopefully his manners. But know he might never make a trail horse.

    I am not normally a 'get a trainer' advice giver, but when the person asking sounds to have very little experience, and I am basing this on the info she has given us in this post, I really don't feel comfortable giving any other advice.

    And as for non perfect horses, of course none are, but an inexperienced person can turn a nice horse (especially a young one) into a monster if they are not experienced enough to handle or correct them.
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        11-18-2013, 02:50 PM
      #62
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    He's a fine trail horse. I rode him with my trainer and her daughters and I rode him on a big trek with like 50 something horses and on the trek he was a bit excited but he is fine on trails! :) And I don't have "very little experience"!
         
        11-18-2013, 03:52 PM
      #63
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by haviris    
    I have avoided commenting here, and hope I don't regret it.

    My best advice is to get an experienced person (lessons would be ideal) to work with you and the horse (or atleast watch you ride and give corrections where needed). However, the best advice that can be offered based off willingness (or lack of) is to fence a place in to ride, spend time working on your riding and hopefully his manners. But know he might never make a trail horse.

    I am not normally a 'get a trainer' advice giver, but when the person asking sounds to have very little experience, and I am basing this on the info she has given us in this post, I really don't feel comfortable giving any other advice.

    And as for non perfect horses, of course none are, but an inexperienced person can turn a nice horse (especially a young one) into a monster if they are not experienced enough to handle or correct them.
    I completly agree with you on the last paragraph and that's what the last 2 or so years have been all about. We have worked then this summer on trigger and rider to build up confidence and assertivness so that trigger does NOT get away with anything. Now after over 4 months of intensive training at our house we sent her home with confidence that with a little help over the phone ect that she could get him through anything. Th point of this situation is that she can not get any more lessons. So if people could give advice how she at home alone can fix this it will be much more helpful than throwing impossible suggestions at her.
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        11-18-2013, 05:16 PM
      #64
    Super Moderator
    I will repeat - we cannot give advice to anyone without seeing an actual video of what is happening
    If the horse is simply too excited about being in an open field then many of us have suggested that she reduce his working area to something he doesn't feel overwhelmed in and then she can slowly increase its size - very easy if they use tread in plastic stakes and wide tape
    A lot of excitable horses calm down when ridden be a very confident relaxed rider and immediately get fractious if they feel some is holding onto their head too much and riding in a very tense way - but we can't see her in action so have no clue if that's happening
    She could try riding him in small circles to avoid the straight shoulder 'take off' but that will only work if she can hold him to that - and again without seeing her or the horse and knowing how strong or powerful he is compared to her size and build - we don't know
    She could maybe hold him better in a stronger bit - but a lot of horses that are hell bent on going forwards at speed will only go upwards in retaliation to more pressure on their mouth
    If that horse gets going at any speed and she tries to turn him on a wet field then there's likely to be a train wreck
    I sold horses both as an employee and working for myself for many years and we had a good reputation because as sellers if we sold a horse that turned out to be too much for the rider in the early weeks because we had somehow missed something in its nature we always offered to take the horse back and find them something more suitable or take the horse back and do some more work with it and the rider free of charge to see if the problems could be ironed out
         
        11-18-2013, 06:21 PM
      #65
    Banned
    Sorry I don't have a clue how to put up a video or anything but I can try out up a picture?
         
        11-18-2013, 06:22 PM
      #66
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    Here's a picture of us before the trek started!:)
         
        11-18-2013, 06:27 PM
      #67
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    https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/...16626769_n.jpg

    Here's a picture of us before the trek started!:)
         
        11-18-2013, 07:09 PM
      #68
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by trigger123    
    Sorry I don't have a clue how to put up a video or anything but I can try out up a picture?
    Upload to youtube with the setting as unlisted so that only those with the link/url can see it.

    Post the link here
         
        11-19-2013, 10:53 AM
      #69
    Super Moderator
    You need someone to video him when he's behaving badly so we can see exactly what he does and how you respond to it
         
        11-19-2013, 12:06 PM
      #70
    Started
    Hello to Trigger123.

    I have also avoided posting on this thread because you seem to get cross at many of the suggestions that come your way. But you are still here, having the conversations, so kudos to you for coming back.

    Firstly, he's a nice looking type of cob. There's a secret you should know about horses like him... They are clever

    When you rode him in a trek with 50 horses, he had it easy. He didn't have to think about threats, or spooks, or anything because he was in a big old herd, and was probably happy to follow nose to tail with all his mates. In addition, you had it easy because you were on a relaxed horse surrounded by helpful people and horses.

    I think you also rode him at Rhosroyalvelvet's if I am reading this thread right? Before you bought him? If I understand correctly, he had three months or so of training there, sorting out his attitude and generally making him into a nice riding horse.

    Then his situation changed BIG TIME. He came to stay with you. In a new home. With new companions or no companions? Suddenly he is not as secure as he was before and he needed a leader.

    Don't underestimate how much this horse has read your body language since he arrived. You might think that you weren't displaying nerves, and that you were exuding confidence... But he will have seen straight into the recesses of your brain and he will have spotted all the questions you had about how to handle him, how to correct him, how to ride him forward.

    And once he saw your weaknesses, you were done for and caused the problems you came here about.

    But all is not lost!! This can be as easily rectified as it has happened. Go to your local tack shop, or talk to your friends, or 'phone up the local pony club, or ask at the vets. Find an instructor who will come out to your place - this might cost 20-40 (sorry, not sure now if you are in the UK or Ireland). Have a lesson in your field. If you can save up money for his bridle, or his vet bills, or his winter feed, then you can get yourself a lesson. And you will be so much happier with a few more tools under your belt.

    Handling a pushy Cob is a skill in itself whether in the ground or in the saddle. There is nothing to be lost, and all to be learnt by having a couple of lessons.
         

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