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        06-11-2010, 04:02 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    Good suggestion about tieing the reins to the saddle. Also, If you are not using a jointed bit (I assumed that was a short-shanked snaffle) I don't think- but I'm no expert- I've only used a snaffle and bosal-that you should be riding two handed. We had to switch my daughter's pony to a twisted wire snaffle for awhile to keep his attention on her, and give her some "oomph", but have since gone back to a plain one. You might try that?
         
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        06-11-2010, 04:06 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by payette    
    Good suggestion about tieing the reins to the saddle. Also, If you are not using a jointed bit (I assumed that was a short-shanked snaffle) I don't think- but I'm no expert- I've only used a snaffle and bosal-that you should be riding two handed. We had to switch my daughter's pony to a twisted wire snaffle for awhile to keep his attention on her, and give her some "oomph", but have since gone back to a plain one. You might try that?



    Yea, you are suppose to ride with two hands with a snaffle and single rein with curb bits. I do both
    If you are not careful with the wire bits you can really ruin your horses mouth. I would like some more information about those types of bits. You have to be light in the hands,am I right? It's always good to be light in the hands but onces in a while I can get heavy with them without realizing it.
         
        06-11-2010, 04:19 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    A note on the rein tying. . . Start really loose- just a slight tension on one rein. Also, I just let my horse loose in the pen, supervised, like that for awhile.There should be no flipping over problems if the horse doesn't feel trapped. I know the wire bit helped hugely for my little girl (she is 5) because her pony knew he was stronger than her, and would just pull the reins out of her hands. We just try really hard to make sure she doesn't pull on both reins at once. She rode in that bit for about 3 months. I think they would deaden your horses response if used all the time. Light is better, for sure, no matter what bit. Best of luck! And, by the way, your mare is very pretty!
         
        06-11-2010, 04:35 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    The key to tying the reins to the saddle is to start with very little pressure and very little flex. If they are tied too tightly or if you ask for too much flex in the beginning and the horse does not understand how to give to the bit, they will fight it and possibly panic, which can result in them going over backwards and getting hurt. You can even do some work on the ground to see if she understands giving to the bit. Stand next to your horse's left side facing forward. Loop the right rein around the saddle horn or lay it over the saddle seat. Take the left rein into your left hand and put some pressure on the left rein (put your hand up near the pommel or cantle of the saddle to give you something to grab so you keep the pressure even and constant). The minute she gives to the bit and turns her neck even the slightest, loosen the rein or move your hand towards her nose to give her the relief. Always bend her neck towards you so if she moves her feet, she will move away from you. If she does fight it a little bit, don't release the pressure but stay right by her side or walk with her if she starts moving. Make sure to do this on both sides. Once your mare knows to bend and give to pressure, you shouldn't have any problems with tying the reins to the saddle. If your horse fights the pressure, continue to ask from the ground until she learns to give. You ideally want your horse to immediately turn her head and drop her nose the second she feels the slightest bit of pressure on the side of the bit.
         
        06-11-2010, 04:41 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Ridehorses99    
    The key to tying the reins to the saddle is to start with very little pressure and very little flex. If they are tied too tightly or if you ask for too much flex in the beginning and the horse does not understand how to give to the bit, they will fight it and possibly panic, which can result in them going over backwards and getting hurt. You can even do some work on the ground to see if she understands giving to the bit. Stand next to your horse's left side facing forward. Loop the right rein around the saddle horn or lay it over the saddle seat. Take the left rein into your left hand and put some pressure on the left rein (put your hand up near the pommel or cantle of the saddle to give you something to grab so you keep the pressure even and constant). The minute she gives to the bit and turns her neck even the slightest, loosen the rein or move your hand towards her nose to give her the relief. Always bend her neck towards you so if she moves her feet, she will move away from you. If she does fight it a little bit, don't release the pressure but stay right by her side or walk with her if she starts moving. Make sure to do this on both sides. Once your mare knows to bend and give to pressure, you shouldn't have any problems with tying the reins to the saddle. If your horse fights the pressure, continue to ask from the ground until she learns to give. You ideally want your horse to immediately turn her head and drop her nose the second she feels the slightest bit of pressure on the side of the bit.

    THANK YOU!

    I will try that this evening if I have time. If not I def. Will tomorrow :)

    I will let you guys know my progress.
    I just need someone to help guide me a bit.
    I apperciate all the responses!
         
        06-11-2010, 04:50 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    Keep us posted. Once your mare learns to give to the bit and becomes more flexible, it's amazing what you will be able to do with her. I even use the ground exercise or tie my gelding's head to the side and put him in his stall to walk in some circles for a little bit to stretch his muscles and loosen up his neck and shoulders before I ride him. Once we finish riding, I make him stretch to get his treats by holding the treat at his side near the cinch area. He has to flex his neck all the way around to get his treat.
         
        06-11-2010, 06:47 PM
      #17
    Showing
    Just to kinda illustrate what Ridehorses is talking about, I actually have a picture because that is how I teach all my greenies to give to bit pressure. You can see where I ran the inside rein through the back D-ring on my saddle then did a little half wrap on the horn. With this, they can still get loose but it takes a significant amount of pulling. Plus, you don't ever want to leave a horse unattended when you do something like this. My Dad has told stories about horses that ended up down with their head bent underneath them that he had to cut them loose.


    Plus, it sounds like to me that your mare is fairly spoiled by whoever did her initial training. It will just take lots of work and consistency (and fights) before she will eventually figure out that throwing a fit will get her nothing.
         

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