Originally Posted by Dawn854
Good to meet a fellow Kiwi on here! :)
You're probably right about the spring grass making him go a wee bit crazy. He normally doesn't behave the way he did today, but I have had problems with him being gate-sour in the past - though I think it had to do with me riding him in a saddle too narrow! I was really disheartened today though, I've had him for two months and basically spent that time trying saddles and only riding occasionally. Today was my second ride in the saddle I've decided to keep, and I've been ecstatic because I thought all my problems were over and I could get on with riding, but when Andy flipped out today, I was pretty crushed!
I've got him on easibeet and a lucerne/meadow chaff mix. He used to get pure meadow chaff, but he got pretty bored eating it, so I've had to mix it with lucerne. I'm interested in possibly using the Hanley Formula, it looks like the complete package! Is Alleviate a vitamin? I'll pop into the feed store sometime and see if I can get a hold of that. Sorry your horses are being nutty too! I guess it can't really be helped at this time of the year.
I live in Hamilton, if you know of any good chiropractors in the Waikato area, I would really appreciate it! I want to completely rule out soreness, especially since I've gone through so many saddles.
Thanks again for your kind reply and I hope you have a great week! :)
(tried to PM this to you, but I don't have enough posts here on the forum to do that! Oh well.)
Yeah with all this ever changing weather the grass is a bit like rocket fuel, so I feel your pain, I have a 10yo tb and a 9yo tb, both are a little funny so I have them on Alleviate and that seems to take the edge off.
I feel you on the disheartening front, but keep your chin up you'll get it sorted eventually, I got my gelding in December 2010, and for almost the first year I battled with bucking issues, saddle fit, hoof abscesses and grass issues, but it does get better! And now I have a mare who has a dodgy past, so progress is slow, but any progress is good!
Keep in mind that 2 months is only a very short period of time, I have no doubt he is still testing the waters with you, finding out what he can get away with, so keep your head up and keep soldiering though it.
Lucerne is pretty heating, so personally I don't use it, but how long have you had him on it for? It could be giving him that bit extra energy to use in his own non-constructive way.
Just make sure that your saddle isn't too tight with that extra pad you have in there, because if the saddle fits by itself then all the pad is essentially doing is making the saddle narrower which may be pointless unless the saddle is slightly too wide. If your worried about saddle fit, take some photos of the saddle on him without a pad and post them up here, there are some pretty knowledgeable and helpful folks around :)
I used easibeet (different to sugarbeet, less sugar content) and had great results with it, the only reason I stopped was because I ran out and didn't need it in my feed mix anymore
Hanley formula is very good, I've seen great results and I can try to PM you before and after photos when I have some if you like, my gelding is on Pollard and Bran(I don't recommend either, will explain in a minute) he is also on crushed Barley - Can be heating but it isn't affecting him, he is also on Dunstans Extruded rice, and Hanley formula.
The reason I don't recommend Pollard and Bran, is because the calcium to phosphorus Ratios in Bran is 1:20, a healthy level is 1:1-2, so essentially the body will pull calcium out of any resources it can, ie, bones. I only found this out the other day so I will be changing to maxi-soy which I have seen work very well on a friends thoroughbred.
Alleviate is basically just Magnesium and boron, because a lot of the time our horses in NZ get low in Magnesium easily due to the soil which causes behavioural issues and sore spots etc, if that doesn't work then I would suggest either Tox Defy or Graze Ezy, they are toxin binders and basically surround the bad stuff in a protective bubble until the horses excrete them, so therefore the toxins in the grass don't effect the horse, or shouldn't, theoretically.
That's ok, I can handle my nutty horses, I'm only 18 so I still bounce well, and I hold on even better
plus I've worked out a combo that keeps my horses heads about as attached to their necks as possible at this time of year.
I'll have to ask my farrier that one, he lives in Hamilton though I do not live anywhere near Hamilton. I do know of one that travels and is very good, I have used him on my own horses with extremely good results. His name is Nick Birch, though I will PM you his details since I don't give out those sorts of things in public
That's alright, it's good to see another kiwi on here and I'll help where I can, though i'm no expert by any means!