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    03-26-2012, 06:23 AM
When I was learning to back TB's they called it "throwing a cross"...
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    03-26-2012, 06:37 AM
Green Broke
Boldstart, you have obviously never experianced a true bolt, it is very different to a horse taking off with you. A bolting horse you cannot turn, you cannot stop and you cannot get thier head round at all. Doesnt matter what you do that horse is going in a straight line, safest thing to do is to bail off and pray the horse doesnt kill itself. At that point the horse is totaly blind with fear and they are not thinking, they are not capable of any rational thought hence why horses sometimes kill themselves when bolting.

When a horse is taking off with you it is thinking and you are generaly capable of steering if not stopping. If you pull thier head round to your knee it throws them off balance, the vast majority of horses who are still thinking will slow down/stop because thier self preservation tells them that they are going to fall if they continue, hence in that time you regain control and bring the horse to the stop.

If you learn how horses think you will find that you understand the bolting process a lot better.
    03-26-2012, 08:41 AM
On a run away/bolter, I don't jump off - my chances of no injury are still higher if I stay on. I don't attempt a one-rein stop - probably wouldn't be able to turn him and if I did we'd most likely topple.

I do try to break that head long, insane run by sawing on the bit. That most often works. Once I get a little give I start a large, safe circle, avoiding trip hazards. On only a couple occasions that didn't work and I changed tactics and I went into wild woman/banshee mode on their backs. They wanted to run, I gave them a reason! And we ran! A lot. But, they were problem horses who had gotten into the habit with weaker riders.

Bolting is not always caused by fear or bad manners, or excess energy, or pain... The trick, to me, is avoiding it in the first place or figuring what caused it, if it's a patterned behavior.
    03-26-2012, 09:51 AM
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Boots - if it isnt a fear reaction then technically it isnt bolting it is Taking off. If sawing on thier moths worked then it wasnt bolting either and wild woman on their back generaly just makes the whole situation worse.
When you are headed at a wall that you KNOW the horse is not going to stop for then it is far safer to bail out. My lad has bolted through post and rail fencing, into walls (knocking a brick out of the wall, fracturing his skull and splitting his bottom lip in half in the process), through hedges, I've gone 2 and a half miles before my unfit youngster started thinking again and only then did I manage to regain control (I only stayed on that time because we were on a nice straight bridlepath), He has gone into cars and over the top of people.
    03-27-2012, 03:18 AM
I've had many bolt and a few that I have been unable to stop until I ended up coming off.
I would never bail - unless the horse is heading for a road (but we dontt have the situation up at the farm). You get seriously hurt bailing and I've never heard anyone not ending up sore or breaking a bone after bailing off.
Also, im at the stage in my riding when horses start to bolt that I retain control very easy. Yes, it can still happen anyday but I have the skills and the tools to stop it.
    04-02-2012, 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
Yes, one rein stop is your fool proof bolt prevention tool. My TB recently explodes on a trail and wanted to go home NOW. It took numerous one rein stops to save my butt, but we got home safe. Teach it to your horse in the confines of the ring, first at the walk, then trot and canter. Then take your new skills out of the ring and give it a try. Little helpful secret. Your horse does not know you feel like you have less control of him outside of the ring, so don't tip your hand and let him know it. Do your one rein stops as if your were in the safe confines of the ring. All your horse will learn is that you can stop him whenever you darn well feel like it.

The bigger problem is sitting out the spin part while trying to prevent the bolt. I would suggest a nice, inexpensive synthetic deep seat saddle like the Thorowgood T4. I can attest as a 45 year old who could use some serious time at the gym that a saddle like that can be the difference between coming home mounted or kissing the ground.

I really, really, really, really wish I knew this before this past weekend; first time my horse has EVER bolted (into full gallop) because he saw a group of cyclists in bright neon colors (can horses even see color?) riding down the road. My horse rarely spooks at anything, and wouldn't you know, a group of cyclists puts him over the edge. This is also the first time I've ever ridden a horse that has bolted into a full run, so of course, I had no idea what to do. I thought about jumping off, but we were in an open area (thank God he didn't do this in the woods - seriously) so I just rode it out.

Everything you guys said not to do, I did, because I didn't know any better. He finally slowed down and it took me about 20 minutes to calm him down just so I could ride him comfortably again.

I will be practicing my one-reign stop IMMEDIATELY.
    04-02-2012, 05:00 PM
Originally Posted by uii    
When your horse bolts, tighten your reins, and yank really hard on them repeatedly. It might seem mean, but it throws them off, and then they remember they have a rider on their back! It really works. You could also try turning them in a circle. Good luck!

This did not work for me. It doesn't even make sense as to how it would work. Horses are a lot stronger than you. And me.
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    04-02-2012, 05:10 PM
My boarder swore up and down her horse bolted with her. Actually the horse was cantering and didn't slow down. The rider's brain bolted. When her thinking cleared the horse slowed when she asked it to whoa. I tried to reassure her that if it was a genuine bolt the horse would have come in the yard in a flat out dead run and possibly run thro the gate and if it didn't it would have turned so fast that she'd have done a painful dismount.
    04-02-2012, 06:03 PM
I've had many bolt and a few that I have been unable to stop until I ended up coming off.
I would never bail - unless the horse is heading for a road (but we dontt have the situation up at the farm). You get seriously hurt bailing and I've never heard anyone not ending up sore or breaking a bone after bailing off.
Also, im at the stage in my riding when horses start to bolt that I retain control very easy. Yes, it can still happen anyday but I have the skills and the tools to stop it.
I don't know if you mean bailing during bolting, but if you just mean emergency dismounts in general I've seen some safely executed.

I've never experienced a true bolter but what I find works best with horses trying to run off with you is to circle them if you have the space. Big circles at first and then progressively getting smaller. Most of the horses I ride, if they're in the right frame of mind, you can saw the bit however you want all day and they couldn't care less.
    04-02-2012, 06:21 PM
Originally Posted by faye    
Sorry but if the horse is truely bolting (not just taking off), then nothing on earth can pull them up.

I have a true bolter, when he goes he will go through fences, into walls etc and there is nothing the rider can do about it because he is in a blind panic. He has in the past bolted headfirst into the wall and cracked his skull
Had he gotten better about it over time or does he still do that (I'm curious.)

Reason I ask is because my horse was the same way.. now he's a gem.

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