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  • How does pulley rein work

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    04-04-2012, 08:20 PM
  #31
Foal
I have never been of a bolting horse, but I have heard of a way to stop one. It's called a pulley rein (is that the same as a one-rein stop)? You shorten one rein as much as you can, grab mane with the hand holding that rein, and shorten and pull the other rein as hard as you can. Please, anyone tell me if this method isn't effective (I'm a beginner), because it could be useful to know in the future.
     
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    04-04-2012, 09:16 PM
  #32
Trained
The pulley rein is not the same as a one rein stop. The one rein stop is shortening one rein excessively to bring the horse's head around to your knee. The pulley rein is placing one hand, say the left very low on the neck as a brace, then pulling up and back with the right. This twists the horse's head rather than bending the neck.

The pulley rein works and well. I have not had to use it on a bolting horse, thankfully, and I think on a true bolt it would actually throw the horse to the ground if done too quickly. I have practiced it a few times first at a walk, then a trot and tried at a canter, but by then my horse would have none of it and as soon as she felt it coming, she would slow down or stop. That was the end of practice.

Anyway, I am a true follower of the pulley rein, as the ORS will not work effectively on narrow trails. The horse will run into the bush and take my legs off. Been there, done that. The pulley rein makes them have to stop without any turning first. Now, if I am on a runaway I would likely not be too agressive with the pulley rein initially. I would want to warn the horse what's coming before I just yank his balance out from under him. However, it's only a split second warning.

I would not let a horse run himself out. Who has 2 km of trail or roadway or fields that are known to be safe? And running himself out does not teach the horse that he has listen to me. Nope, if I want to stop, that dang horse is going to stop.

Bolters are different. Way different. My sister rode one that bolted -- ran right through a fence and my sister bailed before he hit the barn. That's some scarey stuff right there. I would not ride a known bolter. I'd sooner ride a rearer. Yikes.
     
    04-05-2012, 04:20 AM
  #33
Green Broke
Boldstart, I have bailed many times and I'm unhurt. The worst I have had from bailing is a graze on my elbow.
I truely believe that you have never experianced a true bolt. The best rider in the world can't stop a bolt when it starts. You cannot retain control of a bolting horse, If you can then it isnt bolting. I've known people try and haul a bolting horse around using a very severe bit, all they ended up doing was breaking the horses jaw!

From trying to stay on and conciquently going through fences etc I've had far worse injuries including a broken wrist, suspected broken neck etc. I would much rather bail from a bolting horse.


Sky he is getting better with time
     
    04-05-2012, 04:57 AM
  #34
Showing
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Originally Posted by faye    
Sky he is getting better with time
(Good!)

But yes I agree.. a bolt isn't just a horse that decides he's going to start cantering and stops when you apply pressure. From my experience, they aren't mentally there right now. Their mind is on outer space and they have tunnel vision.. something is causing them to run through fences and walls and gates, etc.

I always bail.. Once I get my horse under control on the ground.. I then slowly try again and usually he comes right back to me. It's a process. He hasn't bolted with me in a long while.

From experience it takes re-training.. not just toughing it out.
     
    04-05-2012, 08:31 AM
  #35
Trained
I had a horse that would panic and bolt when she was green. She managed to injure several people and almost got herself killed when she barely missed hitting a tree. She never noticed the tree.

We started her training over from scratch. After months of slow roundpen riding, she didn't panic. She ended up being a calm, gentle horse. She was sold to us as a trained horse, but I believe that she was so green that if she ever felt us (greener than she was at the time) get slightly off balance, she assumed a lion was on her back and about to eat her.

If I had a horse that crazy now, I would either send it to a professional trainer or sell it. There is no way I am doing that again.

I think that Faye is correct about a harsh bit not helping. It probably hurts the horse, adds to the panic, and makes things worse.
     
    04-08-2012, 11:43 PM
  #36
Foal
[QUOTE=NorthernMama;1439140]The pulley rein is not the same as a one rein stop. The one rein stop is shortening one rein excessively to bring the horse's head around to your knee. The pulley rein is placing one hand, say the left very low on the neck as a brace, then pulling up and back with the right. This twists the horse's head rather than bending the neck.

Thanks! The book did not explain very clearly so I'm glad someone set me straight. With all these stories you have, horses running into things, etc, I am suddenly very glad for a lazy school horse!
     
    04-08-2012, 11:59 PM
  #37
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
First of all, an OTTB just off the track needs some time to let down, where they are turned out in a paddock and just let alone to be horses.

Once that is done, then walk. Walk for hours. Walk until the horse is so bored that they are almost asleep on their feet. Then walk some more. Once you feel like all you have done, all your life, is walk on this bloody horse, trot until you feel the same way. Intersperse trotting and walking until the horse is bored of that too.

While you are walking, teach the horse the One Rein Stop. This is an invaluable tool, especially for a rider who is scared of a horse bolting. Once the horse and you are pros at one rein stopping at the walk, do it at the trot. If you are ever bolted with, a one rein stop is far more effective than trying to haul a bolter up with both reins.
The one rein stop does work, I know I had to use it when my horse spooked. It was my first time doing it and while it kept me from probably being knocked off by something, I'm a new rider so I felt myself slipping and decided here was a good spot to just go with the motion lol In English riding I think they have something similar called a pulley, not sure if that is the correct name, it looked similar.
     

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