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post #251 of 502 Old 11-27-2012, 02:47 PM
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How many American dressage riders won the Olympics? So, I find it safe to compare Reining with dressage, especially when that comparison comes from very experienced people.
How many cutting horses won the Olympics?
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Dressage is a tried and true method of training a young horse through certain exersises and movements to be better able, physically and mentally, to perform in any equestrian sport.
Thinking about different equestrian sports, very few are actually real life anymore. A highest level dressage horse is pretty to look at but there is no real use for an extended trot, for example. A reining horse does spectacular stops and spins, but working a cow, a stop like that would send the cow off back to the herd, laughing.
But still, to perform these somewhat exaggerated movements, a certain level of rideability is needed. And this is described well in countless books about riding.
To achieve this level, any horse is best put through schooling certain figures, maneuvers and exercises. The only "school" who has a general standard, tried and true, since many years, happens to be dressage. To make that clear, dressage as SCHOOL, not as competitive sport.
So why shouldn't the average westernrider benefit from this kind of schooling?
I don't think there is any danger that one of them tries to take honor and glory away from a grand prix horse. Or a champion reiner or cutter.

Oh, and the cutter trained to 3rd level dressage has most likely no intention to compete in dressage, but is still capable of performing 3rd level exercises. And I bet he wouldn't ask a 3rd level dressage horse to cut a cow or two.......
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I give up, regardless of what I post I'm snobby and a bitch.

As far as I know I'm actually the only one out of every poster on this thread who actually is offering WD classes at my shows in 2013.

Go have fun being dressage riders everyone. Obviously the lifetime and life savings I've spent on dressage lessons, training and learning is worthless when I could have just bought a cutting horse and winged it without a single lesson and be in the same place with my riding. As an open invite you all can just call me and come out to ride my horse and then we'll see how "easy" dressage is. I never claimed any other discipline is easy or does not require knowledge (go back and read my post), I don't know why its perfectly ok to discipline bash dressage and dressage riders and claim its easy. Just because a cutting horse isn't doing dressage is no reason to get your hackles up. If a dressage horse does what a cutting horse does in either the warm up or the competition ring, then it gets eliminated for being dangerous. Food for thought.
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How many cutting horses won the Olympics?
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Duh....*shakes head in disbelief *
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Duh....*shakes head in disbelief *
Oh I remember back in the 1943 Mars Olympics, Doc Bar Olena Chip put in a wonderful test but was robbed of the gold by the Saturn team. His passage piaffe tour was just lovely. Too bad its too old to be on YouTube! I might have a copy I should try to find it.
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I give up, regardless of what I post I'm snobby and a bitch.

As far as I know I'm actually the only one out of every poster on this thread who actually is offering WD classes at my shows in 2013.

Go have fun being dressage riders everyone. Obviously the lifetime and life savings I've spent on dressage lessons, training and learning is worthless when I could have just bought a cutting horse and winged it without a single lesson and be in the same place with my riding. As an open invite you all can just call me and come out to ride my horse and then we'll see how "easy" dressage is. I never claimed any other discipline is easy or does not require knowledge (go back and read my post), I don't know why its perfectly ok to discipline bash dressage and dressage riders and claim its easy. Just because a cutting horse isn't doing dressage is no reason to get your hackles up. If a dressage horse does what a cutting horse does in either the warm up or the competition ring, then it gets eliminated for being dangerous. Food for thought.
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Anebel, I don't think any of us Europeans has ever bashed dressage as sport. Quite the opposite. Nor did we bash any other equestrian sport. To get to the higher levels of any equestrian sport, a lot of work, training, lessons and not to forget money is needed. And certainly a good horse.
What we, and I guess I can speak for jaydee, bluebird, muppetgirl and longride, and some others, don't get is that some dressage riders think competitive dressage is the only sport, and nobody but them has a right to use the term dressage. If these people could see a little beyond the edge of their plate, so to speak, they would acknowledge dressage as a means to train a responsive, precise, light, well rounded, obedient horse who can perform for a long time and has fun doing so, regardless of what type of sport it's being used in.
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Oh I remember back in the 1943 Mars Olympics, Doc Bar Olena Chip put in a wonderful test but was robbed of the gold by the Saturn team. His passage piaffe tour was just lovely. Too bad its too old to be on YouTube! I might have a copy I should try to find it.
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That was totally uncalled for
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I give up, regardless of what I post I'm snobby and a bitch.

As far as I know I'm actually the only one out of every poster on this thread who actually is offering WD classes at my shows in 2013.

Go have fun being dressage riders everyone. Obviously the lifetime and life savings I've spent on dressage lessons, training and learning is worthless when I could have just bought a cutting horse and winged it without a single lesson and be in the same place with my riding. As an open invite you all can just call me and come out to ride my horse and then we'll see how "easy" dressage is. I never claimed any other discipline is easy or does not require knowledge (go back and read my post), I don't know why its perfectly ok to discipline bash dressage and dressage riders and claim its easy. Just because a cutting horse isn't doing dressage is no reason to get your hackles up. If a dressage horse does what a cutting horse does in either the warm up or the competition ring, then it gets eliminated for being dangerous. Food for thought.
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Apparently dressage people are the only people incapable of knowing or doing dressage. Everyone has it mastered through at least third, if not higher. While the majority of our riders top out at second. It's amazing how much more difficult dressage gets once you're forced to do it in front of a dressage judge.
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Clydie Dressage

Thought everyone may like to see an 'abomination' of a Clydesdale doing dressage! Does it really matter what horse is doing the dressage as long as it gives rider and hrose teh ability to 'show off' their best bits?
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Western Dressage is just as beautiful! Why argue. This type of dressage is amazing and what fab horses. Thumbs up from me and hope we see more of it along with the classical stuff. Couldn't do this on a Clydesdale much to my disappointment.
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