Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman
@jaydee ...couldn't watch the garrocha video, not available for mobile, but have seen somebody else do it. Might have been Sanders even.
@Opal....reading what jaydee said abound Sanders aka ModernVaquero being interested in CD....the rider doing the test is Sanders....and I BET he hasn't practiced anything, has no CD trainer. He has a bridle horse and rides the test with it. It's not about who hits the poles or such, it's about being precise in the maneuvers which should be simulating cowboy work.
I, personally, don't see any sense for passage or piaffe in everyday cowboy work. Half a turn on the fore, and a whole over the haunches instead is useful.
Doing highest level dressage maneuvers in a westernsaddle is just that...doing highest level dressage maneuvers in a westernsaddle. For what? At least vaqueros and Spaniards/Portuguese work cattle and still have really well trained horses who function on a thought alone.
Now, doing WD or CD to arrive at these levels is a different story and I'm all for it.
Well, if it was about being percise, I don't think he was a very good example. His horse hitting poles and doing messy turns on the haunches/forehand doesn't scream "precise" to me, but that's just how I interpreted it.
I've heard lots of people say similar things about WD and CD that anything western should be done with the mindset that it should be beneficial to cattle work and what not. Never in a million years have I ever ridden my horse with that idea/mindset. What about aiming to display the obedience, athleticism, and good training of your horse that goes into high level dressage manuvers? Is that unnecissary because it does't relate to cow work and the only atheletic manuvers shown by a western horse should be that that is beneifical for ranch work? Maybe that's how some people view western, but if that is your opinion I don't know why you might think barrel racing or a lot of the gymkana sports would be any more beneficial to ranchwork than dressage would be :)
I hope you understand what I'm talking about and I don't seem snarky XD I love the conversation we have going right now :)