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post #451 of 502 Old 02-28-2013, 05:39 PM
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The announcer said "half turn on forehand to the right then whole turn on the haunches to the left and vice versa.

Still not impressed....I've seen better from Amateurs in a Horsemanship pattern. I saw a fussy horse.
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This horse probably has never seen an indoor arena, audience and all these white things on the ground. For that it was doing quite well.
I don't think WD/CD people want to do anything that is done in an AQHA show.
What it reminds me of is a class of the European Quarter Horse championships in the 90's called "westernriding". A little bit of everything, some trail obstacles, a bit pleasure, a stop and a spin, all very classy and sophisticated with a more collected horse. I'll see if I can find footage.....
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@jaydee ...couldn't watch the garrocha video, not available for mobile, but have seen somebody else do it. Might have been Sanders even.
@Opal....reading what jaydee said abound Sanders aka ModernVaquero being interested in CD....the rider doing the test is Sanders....and I BET he hasn't practiced anything, has no CD trainer. He has a bridle horse and rides the test with it. It's not about who hits the poles or such, it's about being precise in the maneuvers which should be simulating cowboy work.
I, personally, don't see any sense for passage or piaffe in everyday cowboy work. Half a turn on the fore, and a whole over the haunches instead is useful.
Doing highest level dressage maneuvers in a westernsaddle is just that...doing highest level dressage maneuvers in a westernsaddle. For what? At least vaqueros and Spaniards/Portuguese work cattle and still have really well trained horses who function on a thought alone.

Now, doing WD or CD to arrive at these levels is a different story and I'm all for it.
Well, if it was about being percise, I don't think he was a very good example. His horse hitting poles and doing messy turns on the haunches/forehand doesn't scream "precise" to me, but that's just how I interpreted it.

I've heard lots of people say similar things about WD and CD that anything western should be done with the mindset that it should be beneficial to cattle work and what not. Never in a million years have I ever ridden my horse with that idea/mindset. What about aiming to display the obedience, athleticism, and good training of your horse that goes into high level dressage manuvers? Is that unnecissary because it does't relate to cow work and the only atheletic manuvers shown by a western horse should be that that is beneifical for ranch work? Maybe that's how some people view western, but if that is your opinion I don't know why you might think barrel racing or a lot of the gymkana sports would be any more beneficial to ranchwork than dressage would be :)

I hope you understand what I'm talking about and I don't seem snarky XD I love the conversation we have going right now :)
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"Cowboy Dressage".... Makes me laugh. Theres no such thing. Why don't they stick to "people doing a mediocre trail course in a western saddle".. There's nothing cowboy about this.. I never saw at cow and any of these things... And the "buckaroo" with his taps..
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I thought you liked Jeff Sanders? ;)

I DON'T LEAD 'EM AND FEED 'EM, I RIDE 'EM AND SLIDE 'EM.
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Is that Jeff Sanders? Because if it is, just lost all respect
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Is that Jeff Sanders? Because if it is, just lost all respect
Bah hahaha! Yep, I believe it is.

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It is.....and I seriously think he tried, just for fun( or better, I hope)

Opal, I enjoy the discussion, too.
But, for what you want to do, I would suggest you'll check on Working Equitation. Even tho it says "working" and has a cow working part, it is way more along your line than anything else
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Yeah, I've seen working equitation, it's pretty good. At least there are cows. "cowboy" typically has something to do with cows, but this is like "pole & cone boy" dressage. Welp Cowchick, after that comical video, no longer like Jeff..
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