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post #31 of 39 Old 06-07-2012, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobthebuilder View Post
Haha unfortunately it wasn't a typo. Horse things are RIDICULOUSLY expensive here. Next helmet i'm getting is going to be when i'm home for the summer holidays.
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post #32 of 39 Old 06-07-2012, 09:33 AM
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The helmets I buy need to be approved, they need to be very well ventilated (hot climate) and they need to be ok for showing here (not too much *stuff* on them :P )
Helmets that do have all of this are not cheap.
If i buy a helmet for $1000+, I expect it to be able to handle being dropped, and to be okay for falls where my head has not been involved in the slightest.
I think you will find 99% of people here need to buy a helmet that is approved. No one is allowed to get on any horse at my place unless they have a helmet on.

June 9th is coming up, get one (or two) then. A lot of stores are having discounts on helmets that day as it is Helmet awareness day.

Personally what I do, is have the $$$ helmet for show day and then have the $ (approved and have one on stand by) helmet for training. I have more riff raff to deal with training then I do at shows. also keeps that good looking helmet looking good for longer. That being said, regardless of falls, I replace the show helmet every 5 years if no impact has happened. Training helmet replaced every 2 years.

For me my brain is the best thing I owe and I need to make sure I look after it. I've had my brain saved once from a helmet and I want to make sure it gets saved again if the need arises.

On the back of my head I have a beautiful scar. I spent 3 weeks in hospital with a skull fracture, the thing that saved me was my helmet. There wasn't alot of it left really. visible crack on the exterior and interior, indent on the point of impact. If I wasn't wearing it I properly wouldn't be here.

Accidents happen, you don't know when they are going to happen, you don't know what the mechanism of it will be but, if I'm on a horse I know that regardless of how well trained it is there is always that chance something will go wrong. If I can take a proactive measure and reduce the chance of a brain injury, I will.
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post #33 of 39 Old 06-07-2012, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobthebuilder View Post
Haha unfortunately it wasn't a typo. Horse things are RIDICULOUSLY expensive here. Next helmet i'm getting is going to be when i'm home for the summer holidays.
I don't know where 'here' is, but I've never paid more than $85.00 for a helmet, and mine are vented, approved, and work just fine.

I don't show, so I don't need any of the fancy 'helmets of the moment' that cost an arm and a leg. I have a Tipperary Sportage. LOVE it, and when it needs replacing I'll be buying another one just like it. Cost me $60.00.

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post #34 of 39 Old 06-07-2012, 10:20 AM
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Look- you cannot see microfractures within the structure of your helmet but they cause the helmet to become weakened. Which means it doesn't protect you from brain injury.
If you fell hard enough to fracture ribs- you should change your helmet.
I also don't think we need to make snide remarks about people falling off- lots of proffessional riders fall frequently. Ask any jockey or event rider.
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post #35 of 39 Old 06-07-2012, 11:10 AM
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If I fall and hit my head in the initial fall then I would replace the helmet regardless of any damage being present. However If I were to fall and land on my body and hit my head secondary without any damage or physical discomfort, I probably wouldn't replace it unless it was obvious that the helmet took a good hit.

The rule of thumb is to replace the helmet after EVERY fall that makes contact with an object. I'm sure there's a lot of truth to that about hidden damage but it's also a wicked business idea and I am not about to buy another $500 GPA Speed because it lightly hit the ground. Of course there's always going to be people who will say better safe than sorry, which is much easier when they aren't the one paying for it. :)
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post #36 of 39 Old 06-07-2012, 11:23 AM
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1 - I don't wear helmets that cost more than my horse.

2 - Risk assessment. Any fall, even from the helmet rolling off a chair, COULD damage it in a way that would compromise its future function. Mine has fallen off of chairs more than once, and I've caught grandkids dragging it around. Oh well. I'm not willing to replace it for that. But if I did a lot of jumping, I might replace it for that.

3 - OTOH, if I ever take a fall that is hard enough to break some ribs, I'll probably replace it. Just because. My worst fall came when I was wearing a baseball cap. Since my ball cap had dirt on it, it must have at least touched the ground. Since I didn't feel anything, and since I doubt any of my unorthodox opinions can be blamed on brain damage, my worst fall would NOT have harmed my helmet...but so what? I don't fall often enough to make it an unbearable expense. Which brings up

4 - Any fall has the potential to kill or cripple you. Being 54, maybe I'm just more aware of my mortality. Three falls a year would be enough for me to assess my risk. WHY did I have 3 falls? Am I being careless? Am I overhorsed? Am I trying to do things I lack the training for, or that my horse isn't properly trained for? Or have I accepted the risk for some reason?

I've had two falls in 4 years, both from the same mare bolting during a dismount. I decided that meant my horse lacked training, and we have spent the last 7 months working on the issue of her fear and bolting. She is not perfect, but she is vastly better behaved now, and at least an order of magnitude calmer. That doesn't mean I'm SAFE, but it does mean I'm at reduced risk. We still have more progress to make before I'd try riding her out by herself.

Wearing a helmet is one way of reducing risk. I don't care if people ride with or without a helmet, unless it is on my horse or property - but I do think people should remember that helmets are only ONE way of reducing risk. There are others, and it is reasonable to stop every once in a while and consider them.

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post #37 of 39 Old 06-07-2012, 06:00 PM
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I really want to know where the OP lives. I think I could make a good living selling helmets to them online.
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post #38 of 39 Old 06-07-2012, 07:27 PM
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Right now I only show locally, and my $50 Tipperary helmet is fine for showing there. If I one day move up to higher rated shows, I might get a $300-400 helmet, but you can bet it'll stay safely in its box at my house when I'm not at said shows. Not just to keep it clean (although nothing can go to the barn without being promptly covered in dust) but mostly because it's too expensive to replace even once every other year if I take a fall in my daily riding and the helmet costs that much.

Both Tipperary and Troxel have replacement programs if your helmet needs to be replaced within a certain time period after purchase (one year for Tipperary, two years for Troxel) that will defray the cost of keeping your head safe for those who fall off frequently :cough:
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post #39 of 39 Old 06-08-2012, 03:24 PM
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I live in Dubai, and there are only two horse shops here, they're mainly focused on racing, endurance and jumping- not many normal, conservative dressage helmets so the ones they have are expensive. My trainer is also very picky about the way her students look
And the last time I had something shipped here it was from England... It took 3 months to arrive o.O
And as far as falling off goes... I've never really seen it as a bad thing... Due to my short stature I was often put on small naughty ponies, and when they want you off... There's not much to stay on to .
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