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    03-03-2010, 10:47 PM
  #11
Showing
Training levels are 110% subjective.
Western Pleasure horses are supposed to be easy to ride, and extremely laid back. Arabian showhorses are supposed to be firey. A barrel horse would make a pretty crummy WP horse.
A well trained dressage horse is a well-trained dressage horse. A well trained roper is a well trained roper.
No one discipline produces "better" horses. Look at the top horses in each individual sport, and you've got a good idea of what the 'best' horses in said discipline is. In all honesty, I don't think there is a 'correct' answer for this question, it's completely subjective.


Roro summed it up well:

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dressage horses are the most well-trained for dressage,
Eventing horses are the most well-trained for eventing,
Reining horses are the most well-trained for reining,
Trail horses are the most well-trained for trails,
Etc.
You cannot accurately state that one discipline has more obedient or more well-trained horses than the other.
     
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    03-03-2010, 10:57 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
Training levels are 110% subjective.
Western Pleasure horses are supposed to be easy to ride, and extremely laid back. Arabian showhorses are supposed to be firey. A barrel horse would make a pretty crummy WP horse.
A well trained dressage horse is a well-trained dressage horse. A well trained roper is a well trained roper.
No one discipline produces "better" horses. Look at the top horses in each individual sport, and you've got a good idea of what the 'best' horses in said discipline is. In all honesty, I don't think there is a 'correct' answer for this question, it's completely subjective.
I'm talking basic obedience - not skill in a specific discipline.
     
    03-03-2010, 11:09 PM
  #13
Showing
Again, in my opinion, the question itself is subjective.... for example, I don't expect my dressage horse to stand on hours tied fast. I don't really need him to drag anything either. I expect ANY horse to lead properly and respect my space. I expect any horse to be able to listen to my verbal commands once trained to them. I don't want a dead-head under saddle; I want something with spunk. I don't mind a little bit of personality, I find that it enhances some sports.
It's all about individual expectations, based on a subjective view from each individual discipline.
     
    03-03-2010, 11:14 PM
  #14
Trained
I'm with Smrobs 100% on this one. Over here, most campdraft horses are also used on stations - The parents will ride them in the open and then pop the kids on up to do the junior draft. Solid, willing, dependable, but still have a mind of their own.
     
    03-03-2010, 11:54 PM
  #15
Started
Barrel racing....... hehe just kidding. I agree with smrobs to.
     
    03-04-2010, 02:54 AM
  #16
Banned
Nobody mentioned hunters, hunter seat equitation horses, or field/fox hunters.....

I would have to vote for hunter seat equitation horses. They have to be calm, obedient, rideable and make their riders look good no matter what. They have to perform advanced maneuvers on light contact and with invisible aids. Then they have to repeat the same tests with different riders, then there's individual flat tests designed to separate the "robots" from the truly well trained, obedient horses.

My second vote is for field/fox hunters. No one who hasn't actually hunted can understand what it's like to gallop for a a mile or more in a crowd, with everyone's blood up and hounds in full cry, then stop dead, stand, back your horse off of a narrow trail and stand quietly while the rest of the field reverses and gallops by you. Add maintaing safe following distance at a gallop, ponying another horse, jumping in tandem, jumping from a walk or trot in trappy conditions, handling hand gates, dropping a 'rider' on a fence from the saddle, and allowing riders to pass a flask, ham biscuits and Advil from hand to hand without disaster, and you have a viable candidate for best trained/most obedient.
     
    03-04-2010, 03:00 AM
  #17
Green Broke
Actually I did... they are the wp for the english jumping world...
     
    03-04-2010, 03:10 AM
  #18
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think pleasure horses (english, hunter, and western pleasure horses)
I understood this to mean pleasure horses, not Working Hunters or Hunter Seat Equitation. Slightly different disclipline, different training.
     
    03-04-2010, 04:08 AM
  #19
Green Broke
Oh, I had no idea there were different types of hunters... thank you for clearing that up for a western rider!
     
    03-04-2010, 10:39 AM
  #20
Trained
Ranch horses, for sure. I owned one for almost 10 years and that horse did everything with no fuss. And when I say everything.. I mean everything lol.
I'm taking this question to mean "what horses are the most amateur competition/all round friendly?".
In the case of "what horses are the best trained?" I'm obviously going to say dressage lol. Dressage means training. Its purpose is to produce a horse that is so finely tuned to the aids, it looks the rider is doing nothing.

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