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post #41 of 43 Old 09-28-2009, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by farmpony84 View Post
I hope we havent lost the OP.

I find this thread pretty interesting. I'm a QH person so in "my" world you really want the papers to breed, but I think it's a pretty interesting point regarding the inspections and approvals. If I were to breed a horse for say, the hunt world then I would probably be more interested in the horses that have had to pass the inspection processes, because then I would know that my horse had the conformation to do the things I'm looking to do. I don't know a whole lot about it but I know there are different classifications when a horse passes and receives the approval or whatever it's called.

I think it's interesting and worth looking into for the OP....
To me approval is more important than the original papers.

Even if the OP is gone this is a good topic to discuss.

Take my stallion. He has papers from his birth registry but they are worthless without approval for no mare would come to him without it. Only approved stallions to approved mares will produce babies with papers.

However in my case I could not get approval as he was 1 inch shy in one measurement so he was in effect a stallion without papers as far as his birth registry is concerned. Also since his birth registry was more a breeding and not a performance registry approval was paramont. I did what I was telling the OP to do...get approval elsewhere. I did and in fact the inspector doing the approvals was the owner of Werbellin and someone that certainly knew what she was looking at. This is not as strange as it may seem as many times a WB stallion will not be accepted into his birth registry but will go to another WB registry and this has produced some confusing results to us NA people ( such as a hannovarian by blood, but Oldenburg by approval) that don't understand the inner workings of WB approvals.

The interesting fact is my boy had to get an approval score higher than what his birth registry was approving and even now, even if he went to Spruce Meadows and won the Masters (not likely thought) his birth registry will not take him.

He was in effect a grade stallion for the original papers are worthless. It is this reason that certainly 99.9% males should be gelded but it isn't because they have worthless or even lost, unproven or no papers but because they would never measure up in producing or they don't have the conformation/temperment that puts them notches above all others. Each potential stallion should be judged on its merits and background before the "chop them off" is warrented.

It is irresponsible to have non descript studs breeding and it is just as irresponsible to say geld everything without looking closely as to why no papers are available.
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Originally Posted by wild_spot View Post
I think you meant:

I did thank you!
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post #43 of 43 Old 09-29-2009, 03:24 AM
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A very interesting topic this is. In my area, we are.....fussy. We want horses with papers, it opens more doors to us. If we have a registered horse, we can do breed shows.
If I had a horse that couldn't be registered, I would give him the snip. But I would train him up. He could do open classes.
But honestly, I track down papers. I'm a paper stalker. If there is the slightest possible chance of finding/getting papers, I will get them :)
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