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post #1 of 16 Old 05-06-2012, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
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What do you do when you want to do it all?

This is going to come of snobby, but I swear it's not meant to be! So here's the deal, I have an awesome horse who can litterally do everything and compete at good sized shows. He's my baby. However I feel that I need another horse to compete with too. But I don't have an idea in hell why direction I'm going with in my riding. I do reining, western pleasure, English pleasure, English eq, western horsemanship, trail and I WANT to do jumpers, dressage, cutting, ranch work, eventing and hunter under saddle.
I simply can't afford a seperate horse for all those discplines and never mind competing in them. I have a burning desire to do each event, but I really, want to have a goal in mind for my current horse and a mental idea for my next horse.
I have talked to my three trainers and of course they all think I should do different things.


I suppose it comes down to compromise. So what do you think I should do?

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post #2 of 16 Old 05-06-2012, 08:07 PM
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The best you can do is probably three categories.

1. All around horse - this is what I bred for, western pleasure, horsemanship, HUS, hunter over fences, english equitation, trail, etc. These horses are out there and can do it all.

2. Cow horse/reining horse - they're bred differently, look different.

3. Three-day event horse - again, bred differently.

You'd be hard pressed to find all three categories. Your best bet would be to get a solid horse in the 1st category, and then just let him play in the 2nd and 3rd categories without too much pressure.

Or you can take lessons in the different categories first, and see which one you like best. :/
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post #3 of 16 Old 05-06-2012, 08:32 PM
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If you've got a great all round horse I'd keep riding him for a while until you decide what you want to specialise in.

If you just buy another horse now, you'll at best case scenario get a horse like the one you already have. Although I think it's likely you get a worse horse because true all-rounders can be difficult to find.

Eventually you'll probably have to choose between being a decent all-rounder, or a really good specialised rider, especially if your horse won't excel at anything. When you make that choice, then look at buying a horse that suits your needs.
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Which on do you enjoy the most?

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Do you want to win? Then pick something and focus.

"All-arounders" don't impress me much. They are usually a product of breed shows and when they step out into open competition, the riders and horses who have been concentrating on a particular discipline wipe the floor with them.
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I'm rather confused, actually. You say that your horse can do anything, but you need another horse... I see all-arounder horses as having the versatility to do a wide range of disciplines, but they do not have the ability to advance very far in any of them. So if you just want to compete in the different disciplines, I'd say that's ideal (although the horse you have now seems to be this type, which is why I'm a little confused as to why you need another competition horse.)
However, if you want to advance to the tops of multiple disciplines, there's no way around having multiple horses. Dressage requires a different type of horse than cutting or western pleasure. So the big question is, how far do you want to go with the disciplines?
My advice is to pick one to specialize in, and if you want to try another one, go ahead. But if you want to really do well in any discipline, you can't do others- you have to focus on that one, and only that one.

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If you want to show in certain discipline, show big, and show successfully then you have to concentrate on that particular discipline (with that being said you can have an eventer to be great at both - dressage and jumping, so I'm not talking about something like that but rather jumping and reining, or dressage and cutting, and so on).
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I'm rather confused, actually. You say that your horse can do anything, but you need another horse... I see all-arounder horses as having the versatility to do a wide range of disciplines, but they do not have the ability to advance very far in any of them. So if you just want to compete in the different disciplines, I'd say that's ideal (although the horse you have now seems to be this type, which is why I'm a little confused as to why you need another competition horse.)
However, if you want to advance to the tops of multiple disciplines, there's no way around having multiple horses. Dressage requires a different type of horse than cutting or western pleasure. So the big question is, how far do you want to go with the disciplines?
My advice is to pick one to specialize in, and if you want to try another one, go ahead. But if you want to really do well in any discipline, you can't do others- you have to focus on that one, and only that one.
Wow I really did contradict myself. He's and open show horse.

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Do you want to win? Then pick something and focus.

"All-arounders" don't impress me much. They are usually a product of breed shows and when they step out into open competition, the riders and horses who have been concentrating on a particular discipline wipe the floor with them.
that's sort of what I am trying to get at. I want to specialize, compete and win but I just can't decide on which event.

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Often I find horses that can "do it all" (especially at the open show level) really are just mediocre in a bunch of things.

Mildot, I think you are confusing the open/local level "all arounder" with the breed show AAs. A TRUE breed show all-around horse is definitely a hot commodity, and can cost quite a bit of money. These are the horses that go all day and stay strong. Showmanship, HUS, HSE, sometimes the hack, WP, WH, WR, Trail. Those are the main classes the AA horses go in. And to be competitive at the breed show level in those classes takes a lot of horse, a lot of time, and a lot of work. A horse that can do all of those classes and do it well is a very special horse.


To the OP, I feel that you should judge your horse without rose-colored glasses. How deep is the competition at your current shows? If you are planning to step up to a higher level of competition, then you need to choose the field that your horse most succeeds in and go from there. If he's not a good hunter, then get out of it and focus on developing a stronger western horse and vice versa. You need to judge your horse's abilities without bias.
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